White4Runner

Anybody have any feedback on the 3.0L offered by these folks? Tucson is somewhat "local" for me so it wouldn't be much of a trip to get out there and have one of these installed.

I know, I know. Just swap in a 3.4L....

http://www.toyotaperformance.com/3vze.htm

A1dreese

I'm sorry but, did I read that right 6900$!

Sansocal

That looks like a painted 3vze with new pipes but hey, if it was sittin in my garage i wouldnt blink before tearin out the old one.

3.4 is $2695.00 on this site.

jrobertson4runnner

more than twice the price of a brand new 3VZE and only 30% hp gain? how much torque do u gain? You can get a lot more performance for less money than that. Shoot, drop in a small block V8 and you will be puttin out some power.

RobD

Yeah, can't recommend that when a 3.4 swap gives you at least that much power for less than half the cost. Heck, I'm sure you could find a supercharged 3.4 and swap it for under half that cost.

vital22re

iTrader: (2)

just fyi... i did my 3.4 swap for 2100... just food for thought... never would i waste money on another 3.0 if i was keeping the rig..

White4Runner

I should have noted in my original post that he has a "stock" engine for $3900. Expensive, yes. But he says he uses alot of new parts.

The problem with a swap is no local help or support. I've talked to a couple local guys who've never done it but are willing to try. While I appreciate the enthusiasm, I am not interested in being a guinea pig.

I've not really decided what to do just yet. Still, I'm curious about TCR and would like any feedback on his engine builds if anybody has anything. He's been in business since 1993 and has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau so somebody must be buying his engines.

White4Runner

On which site?

White4Runner

You think $6,900 is bad? Check here:

http://www.doaracingengines.com/page7/page7.html

jrobertson4runnner

yeah, seems a lil ridiculous to me. If I want that much power I'll either swap in a 3.4 or a v-8. Don't feel like spending 6900+ on something that has less than 500 hp

RobD

Before I did my swap, my biggest project was a headgasket/timing chain a Sunfire.

I tackled my swap with a borrowed engine hoist and an engine stand I bought, some more or less basic hand tools, and my brother's carport.

The mechanical side of the swap is really quite easy, if you follow the steps in a hundred various threads out there. My biggest resource was Andy Zook's website http://www.andrewzook.com/content/view/22/37/

The hardest part was the wiring, which, in all honesty, isn't that bad once you understand the end goal.

Just food for thought.

Sansocal

Here's a link to that site: http://www.precisionengine.com/rebui...ota/index.html

jskijoe

I had nobody here that had done the swap before either but I was able to do it on my own. It took a long time with my schedule but it was a complete diy! Without yotatech there was no way I was going to tackle it though. I was able to get a harness from ORS before they closed as well as 3.4 headers from Downey before they closed too so that was helpful. Not sure I'd try the wiring myself but I think there is another place that is doing harnesses now anyway. So if you have the harness done, it's pretty straightforward stuff.
I'm glad I did it and plan on doing it again if I find the right project!
(edit)
I'll also add that I weighed all the 3.0 options before I decided on the 3.4 but for that amount of money and the love I have for my truck, I thought it deserved a better designed motor with greater potential for upgrades in the future.
The other consideration with a "rebuilt" 3.0 is that the quality of the rebuild parts can vary. I'm sure there are reccommendations to whom is better to get a reman'd motor from but to me, from the factory is better than any rebuilt or reman'd motor so finding a low mileage3.4 was the way to go for me for less than the price of a "hopped up" 3.0.

White4Runner

Thanks for the link but I doubt I'll use those guys. Checking the Better Business Bureau shows an "F" rating. While not necessarily the only thing I'd base a purchase decision on, it certainly doesn't inspire much confidence in their services.