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8lugnuts Aug 27, 2009 09:27 PM

Tall oil filter .vs. Small oil filter
 
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Just wondering if anyone has ever done this. I posted two pics here, one of the standard recommended oil filter for my Toyota 5VZ-FE motor.

Back in the late 80's my friends and I all had little street-legal turbo 4-bangers we modified and raced(SCCA Solo 1). One thing we did was use the longer version of the factory oil filter since it allowed us to ad an extra 1/2 quart of oil. We figured more oil, more surface area on the taller filter, better engine oil cooling. I have no idea if it really worked but it seemed cool and did not seem to change the oil pressure.

So I'm wondering if the taller version of my motor's oil filter would work the same way without affecting oil pressure.

8lugnuts

ozziesironmanoffroad Aug 27, 2009 09:30 PM

id say go with taller....

RMA Aug 27, 2009 09:32 PM

sounds like a good Idea , should be ok .

Matt16 Aug 27, 2009 09:48 PM

Won't hurt, but probably not necessary.

abecedarian Aug 27, 2009 09:53 PM

a remote cooler and coils would work as well

Jay351 Aug 27, 2009 11:21 PM

I run the toyota v8 filter in my truck. :)

wyoming9 Aug 28, 2009 12:11 AM

I have been running the taller filters on my 22rec engines for years .

It makes it easier for my short arms to reach.:camp2:

i have also quit using Fram Filters but that is your own choice There are enough stories out there to make up your own mind

volcomdork182 Aug 28, 2009 05:41 AM

I bought the tough guard. Its the shorter version but it works wonders. Its for offroading and towing.

TNRabbit Aug 28, 2009 06:00 AM

Mobil One makes THE BEST oil filter.

highway Aug 28, 2009 06:16 AM

i use a wix or napa gold (wix makes them )

Junkers88 Aug 28, 2009 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by highway (Post 51215755)
i use a wix or napa gold (wix makes them )

X2 here. I've been using them for years and never had an issue.

8lugnuts Aug 31, 2009 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Matt16 (Post 51215641)
Won't hurt, but probably not necessary.

I realize it is not necessary but do you not think that increasing the surface area of the filter(via larger filter) PLUS the extra oil capacity will cool the oil temp down? Even if it's just a little the benefit seems like it's worth it.

8lugnuts Aug 31, 2009 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by abecedarian (Post 51215645)
a remote cooler and coils would work as well

I realize there are some more expensive alternatives but my goal is to go with a cheap and easy one and the oil filter swap seemed like the best solution.

8lugnuts Aug 31, 2009 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jay351 (Post 51215689)
I run the toyota v8 filter in my truck. :)


Jay, which manufacturer's filter do you use and which model?

anthonyo89 Aug 31, 2009 07:55 PM

It couldn't hurt, but it would certainly help if you have short arms :D

Tubbyfatty Aug 31, 2009 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by 8lugnuts (Post 51218491)
Jay, which manufacturer's filter do you use and which model?

"I run the toyota v8 filter in my truck."

The V8 filter from Toyota. Its for the 4.0Ls I think.

abecedarian Aug 31, 2009 08:11 PM

The length of time oil spends in a filter 1" longer than "stock" is not likely to increase cooling much if at all. The oil filter is in a mostly protected area out of any 'cool' air flow (and is even more protected if you have a/c), unless you think air coming off the radiator is cool. Even the oil pan radiates more heat to the atmosphere than the oil filter does simply because the pan has a greater exposed surface area than the filter does and oil has a longer period of contact with the pan than it does with the filter.

You should be more concerned about the quality of your oil and filter than with how much heat is radiated by the filter.

sb5walker Aug 31, 2009 08:14 PM

I can't find it now, but I remember reading an in-depth analysis of a bunch of different filters, and it found that the FRAM and its relatives (PUROLATOR was one of them, I think) use a very cheap combination pressure bypass/anti-drainback valve that often leaks, allowing oil to flow out of the filter and therefore there is a delay in oil getting circulated while the pump refills the filter. Also on some of the FRAMs they cut open there were gaps where the filter paper wasn't glued fully on one end and oil could just flow right past.

Toyota filters are great, I've always negotiated great prices at the dealer when I buy a case at a time (12 filters, I think). I have heard many good things about the Wix/NAPA Gold filter. Mobil 1 filters are way overpriced. I've heard AMSOIL filters are the best on the planet. True?

Jay351 Aug 31, 2009 09:00 PM

Toyota uses like 3 different size of oil filters. The 22re and 3vze and 5vzfe use the same one, the tall v8 one is for the 4.7L

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