So tired of ppl telling me tha the 3vze is a bad motor
06-07-2012, 11:24 AM
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I am with Vudujoose on this one, I also own another motor that was said to be a dog, the vg33e or 3.3 Nissan. With upgrades to injectors, ecm, cams, pistons, and various other little tweaks that 195hp dog is now a 345hp Beast.... 
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I have also started building on my 3.hmmn, its bored .50 over, pumping Probe 11:1 pistons, headgasket has been replaced and lined with a stainless steel backing plate from M.A.M., as well as modifying the fuel pressure regulator and doing some other fun stuff here and there. I plan to build my own custom CAI for it based off a NCFJ custom set-up I saw. In other words, just because yall ran outta Ideas, don't count the ol' dog out just yet.
http://www.probeindustries.com/Toyot...ns_s/20161.htm
....I have also started building on my 3.hmmn, its bored .50 over, pumping Probe 11:1 pistons, headgasket has been replaced and lined with a stainless steel backing plate from M.A.M., as well as modifying the fuel pressure regulator and doing some other fun stuff here and there. I plan to build my own custom CAI for it based off a NCFJ custom set-up I saw. In other words, just because yall ran outta Ideas, don't count the ol' dog out just yet.
http://www.probeindustries.com/Toyot...ns_s/20161.htm
LOL...JK
06-07-2012, 11:41 AM
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http://static.photobucket.com/player.../VIDEO0012.mp4
SAME person who owns this... Oh wait, tha's me!
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06-07-2012, 12:05 PM
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I'd love a 4.3 v6 in my 4Runner but I dont like how it requires a 3" body lift and a diff drop just to clear it on IFS.
3.4 is a great solid motor. I hear good things about a supercharged motor, and I hear better things from a N/A motor.
I'd love to have a 2.7 in place of my 3.0 as well
3.4 is a great solid motor. I hear good things about a supercharged motor, and I hear better things from a N/A motor.
I'd love to have a 2.7 in place of my 3.0 as well
Matt, what's the top speed of your 4dr as it sits with the 3.0?
06-07-2012, 09:52 PM
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Hahaha... Yeah, .... I hear ya... But I still wanna know, lol.
My 22RE did 93MPH yesterday on the 405frwy, totally flat ground leaving LAX area. NO WAY did I get butterflies or something, lol.... Just that I could never get one over 85mph, most of them no more than 80.... Some less, lol. Just curious what the 3.0 can get up to, max, ya know?
06-08-2012, 04:19 AM
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For what it's worth, mine pulls easily to 84mph. I daren't go faster, because that's 4k rpm in 5th. Not quite what I'd like as a cruising engine speed... but she did it for 22hrs straight once with nary a hiccup! I heart my 3.0!
06-08-2012, 12:41 PM
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Y'all have obviously never heard of the 400HP 3VZ-E that TRD built for Ivan Stewart to run in the Baja 500/1000 races.
3VZ-E = great motor. I've always said so. And I always will.
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Own a piece of history!!! This is a custom-built race engine. All parts specially cast, made and machined by Toyota Racing Development's Race Engine shop, the same folks making the NASCAR race motors. Back when Ivan "the Iron Man" Stewart was fully factory backed with a small army of Toyota technicians and engineers, TRD and PPI hand built a limited run of 3.0L engines to dominate SCORE Baja racing and they DID! Capable of nearly 400 horsepower on a full on race tune, these motors carried Ivan Stewart to multiple Baja 500 and 1000 wins. Most of the motors and parts disappeared to collectors or TRD scrap parts bins but this one got away. It lurked in the shadows of TRD until it was put back into action in a Class 7S race truck by a TRD engineer in 2001. He raced a year or so then sold the truck to the Long Beach Racers who campaigned the truck and WON the Baja 1000 on this motor in 2004. This is a winning, strong motor built with Toyota reliability. The Long Beach Racers ran the truck another 2 years and wanted to switch to Class 7SX which allows for 3.4L motors and more competition. During the Baja 250, they spun a bearing and instead of rebuilding the motor, they decided to make the switch to 3.4L. So if you're looking for a high horsepower motor to run or race or you want to put a piece of history on display in your showroom, this is the last chance for this motor to be available. If you could even get TRD to make you one of these, you'd pay a couple hundred grand or more. The heads are one-off castings for high flow with matching intakes, dry sumped, girdled block, etc. If you know racing and Baja racing at that, you know how rare this opportunity is. Auction includes: TRD 3VZ Racing Engine, including dry sump and pump, ECU's and headers. Basically a complete engine that needs a bottom end rebuild. Spare Parts: Lots of spare sheet metal timing belt covers, etc. 3 cam shafts 1 crankshaft 3 dry sump pans 3 main bearing supports / crank position sensor mounts 4 sets of heads 4 intake manifolds 2 injection systems 1 set of valve covers 1 power steering reservoir 6 ignition coils 7 cam pulleys Lots of spare valves and springs, both new and used Braded stainless steel Dry sump lines with AN fittings 160 amp alternator 1 Ultra Filter oil filter can Extra oil lines 15 velocity stacks 2 crankshaft pulleys New distributor cap TIG welded chrome moly motor mounts I have more pictures with better shots of the spare parts I will email to bidders. Sorry, eBay limits the amounts of pictures I can post.
y minus pics but the listing number is there for all to go look into and pick apart.
NOTICE IT SAYS CAPABLE OF 400 HP ON FULL RACE TUNE does not seem to me hes not claiming its a400 hp motor but could be made to be in full race form.
y minus pics but the listing number is there for all to go look into and pick apart.
NOTICE IT SAYS CAPABLE OF 400 HP ON FULL RACE TUNE does not seem to me hes not claiming its a400 hp motor but could be made to be in full race form.
I remember being about 12 while riding in a ford courier...and getting passed by a 4cyl 4runner up donner summit like the courier was standing still. Or, attempting to get a Chevy LUV to go up a hill with people in the bed-- that was a joke and a half. Maybe you fancied the Subaru Brat with its awe inspiring 90hp engine. Or the carbureted nissan trucks of the day that couldn't get out of their own way. The point is, many (if not all) of these other 80's trucks don't even exist anymore because they were such horrible piles of junk.
If the 3VZ-E never had any problems holding gaskets, then IMO it would be on-par with its contemporaries. They need more maintenance than some of the others, though. The ones that hold their gaskets seem to make it as long as any gas engine could be expected to. To be fair, even the 22R-Es can be touchy about holding head gaskets.
I guess they could have used the 2F engine as a hand-me-down from the Cruiser in '88....
06-09-2012, 11:51 AM
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my 3.0 has been throwing a knock sensor code for the longest time even with my 488s i had no power! took it to the shop and it was around 600 to fix id rather do a 3.4 swap then drop that much into it aha. well i pulled 2 spark plug wires. and started it up, and shut it off then put them back on. when i started it up again no code. plenty of power! did it fix itself or was it me messing around ill never nooo but this is why love my toyota
06-09-2012, 12:37 PM
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Here's my take on it.
Is the 3VZ-E an exceptionally powerful motor? No.
Does it get good gas mileage? No.
Here's the real question, why did Toyota build the 3.0?
They built it to be reliable, get decent mileage, and have decent power. In my book it does all 3. I know some people on here will say that the 3.0 is garbage, but to me any engine that can regularly last upwards of 200,000+mi. without any major repair sounds like a good engine!
With that being said, I own a 22RE and 5VZ-FE. I have had a 3VZ-E in the past and I do prefer the 3.4 and 2.4 over the 3.0.
Toyota designed the 3.4 to be the bigger, more powerful, more race-inspired engine. And to me it's pretty obvious. The 3.0 was designed to take dad to work, the kids to school and to haul groceries.
The 3.4 coupled with the TRD supercharger is quite the animal. Specs of ~300hp with the TRD supercharger and the 3.4 5VZ-FE EASILY attainable (7th injector kit, smaller 2.2" supercharger pulley should net around 300hp). That's my goal with my Tacoma.
Is the 3VZ-E an exceptionally powerful motor? No.
Does it get good gas mileage? No.
Here's the real question, why did Toyota build the 3.0?
They built it to be reliable, get decent mileage, and have decent power. In my book it does all 3. I know some people on here will say that the 3.0 is garbage, but to me any engine that can regularly last upwards of 200,000+mi. without any major repair sounds like a good engine!
With that being said, I own a 22RE and 5VZ-FE. I have had a 3VZ-E in the past and I do prefer the 3.4 and 2.4 over the 3.0.
Toyota designed the 3.4 to be the bigger, more powerful, more race-inspired engine. And to me it's pretty obvious. The 3.0 was designed to take dad to work, the kids to school and to haul groceries.
The 3.4 coupled with the TRD supercharger is quite the animal. Specs of ~300hp with the TRD supercharger and the 3.4 5VZ-FE EASILY attainable (7th injector kit, smaller 2.2" supercharger pulley should net around 300hp). That's my goal with my Tacoma.
06-09-2012, 06:24 PM
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OP sure, you can dump massive amounts of cash into just about anything that burns fuel and make it something extra special. but are we talking about modifying an engine here or are we talking out of the box stock? The 400hp 3vze cited is kind of ridiculous as well. of course you can do that with a TRD factory at your disposal. Its TRD. They could probably squeeze 400hp out of a box of graham crackers.
Lets compare apples to apples though shall we?
The fact of the matter is in STOCK form, the 3.0 produces 150hp and 180tq. where the 22re puts out 112hp and 138tq. flywheel of course.
22re will get around 25-27 mpg when driven reasonably. 3vze averages about 17. So for 42 hp and 42tq you are sacrificing about 10 mpg....
those things alone are the biggest reason, I feel, that it has a negative connotation associated with it. Now is it a bad engine? Absolutely not. As stated it is extremely reliable and will last you well into the 200s easy, just as pretty much all toyota products will. But if I'm paying V8 fuel prices then Ill take the 250 hp please. In the mean time, I will buy the truck with the 4banger every time.
06-10-2012, 04:18 AM
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my 3.0 has been throwing a knock sensor code for the longest time even with my 488s i had no power! took it to the shop and it was around 600 to fix id rather do a 3.4 swap then drop that much into it aha. well i pulled 2 spark plug wires. and started it up, and shut it off then put them back on. when i started it up again no code. plenty of power! did it fix itself or was it me messing around ill never nooo but this is why love my toyota
06-10-2012, 10:30 AM
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"22re will get around 25-27 mpg"
The 22re and 3vz get the same mpg in a 4x4.
And pulling anything the 22re can actually get worse milage.
Ive never seen a 22re get over 20mpg in a 4x4
Now in a 2 wheel drive it might get 25+, but the 3vz did aswell
5 horse briggs & straton has both beat for milage, so id go with that if your into small moters getting better milage.
The 22re and 3vz get the same mpg in a 4x4.
And pulling anything the 22re can actually get worse milage.
Ive never seen a 22re get over 20mpg in a 4x4
Now in a 2 wheel drive it might get 25+, but the 3vz did aswell
5 horse briggs & straton has both beat for milage, so id go with that if your into small moters getting better milage.
06-10-2012, 10:55 AM
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Here's my take on it.
Is the 3VZ-E an exceptionally powerful motor? No.
Does it get good gas mileage? No.
Here's the real question, why did Toyota build the 3.0?
They built it to be reliable, get decent mileage, and have decent power. In my book it does all 3. I know some people on here will say that the 3.0 is garbage, but to me any engine that can regularly last upwards of 200,000+mi. without any major repair sounds like a good engine!
With that being said, I own a 22RE and 5VZ-FE. I have had a 3VZ-E in the past and I do prefer the 3.4 and 2.4 over the 3.0.
Toyota designed the 3.4 to be the bigger, more powerful, more race-inspired engine. And to me it's pretty obvious. The 3.0 was designed to take dad to work, the kids to school and to haul groceries.
The 3.4 coupled with the TRD supercharger is quite the animal. Specs of ~300hp with the TRD supercharger and the 3.4 5VZ-FE EASILY attainable (7th injector kit, smaller 2.2" supercharger pulley should net around 300hp). That's my goal with my Tacoma.
Is the 3VZ-E an exceptionally powerful motor? No.
Does it get good gas mileage? No.
Here's the real question, why did Toyota build the 3.0?
They built it to be reliable, get decent mileage, and have decent power. In my book it does all 3. I know some people on here will say that the 3.0 is garbage, but to me any engine that can regularly last upwards of 200,000+mi. without any major repair sounds like a good engine!
With that being said, I own a 22RE and 5VZ-FE. I have had a 3VZ-E in the past and I do prefer the 3.4 and 2.4 over the 3.0.
Toyota designed the 3.4 to be the bigger, more powerful, more race-inspired engine. And to me it's pretty obvious. The 3.0 was designed to take dad to work, the kids to school and to haul groceries.
The 3.4 coupled with the TRD supercharger is quite the animal. Specs of ~300hp with the TRD supercharger and the 3.4 5VZ-FE EASILY attainable (7th injector kit, smaller 2.2" supercharger pulley should net around 300hp). That's my goal with my Tacoma.
I had the 3.0 in my '95 4Runner, which was my first car and I actually loved it. It was taken care of right from the beginning which was instrumental in its reliability.
It's just like Jeeps. Are they historically reliable? No. Do they last if taken care of? Sure.
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06-10-2012, 11:42 AM
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"22re will get around 25-27 mpg"
The 22re and 3vz get the same mpg in a 4x4.
And pulling anything the 22re can actually get worse milage.
Ive never seen a 22re get over 20mpg in a 4x4
Now in a 2 wheel drive it might get 25+, but the 3vz did aswell
5 horse briggs & straton has both beat for milage, so id go with that if your into small moters getting better milage.
The 22re and 3vz get the same mpg in a 4x4.
And pulling anything the 22re can actually get worse milage.
Ive never seen a 22re get over 20mpg in a 4x4
Now in a 2 wheel drive it might get 25+, but the 3vz did aswell
5 horse briggs & straton has both beat for milage, so id go with that if your into small moters getting better milage.
My white 87 22re which is 4x4 gets 25-27. 21 pulling a trailer with motorcycles on it...
06-10-2012, 11:54 AM
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5 horse briggs & straton has both beat for milage, so id go with that if your into small moters getting better milage.
BS. No toyota 4x4 ever got 27mpg, especially pulling anything.
Unless your was special. Like 1 in 100000
You clearlly dont know how to calculate milage or didnt compensat for speedo being off.
Unless your was special. Like 1 in 100000
You clearlly dont know how to calculate milage or didnt compensat for speedo being off.
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