Proportioning valve
Could this be possible?:
A malfunctioning lspv such that with a little extra weight in the bed of the truck such that the truck gets a bit better gas mileage. I ask because I swear that with a 400 hundred pounds in the bed the truck seems to accelerate easier. It's just a feeling so I know I could be wrong but man it's a strong and frequent experience. My thought is that the lspv is clogged or something. If so, maybe the rear brakes never fully or cleanly let go so creates a drag. |
Originally Posted by briholt
(Post 51864939)
Could this be possible?:
A malfunctioning lspv such that with a little extra weight in the bed of the truck such that the truck gets a bit better gas mileage. I ask because I swear that with a 400 hundred pounds in the bed the truck seems to accelerate easier. It's just a feeling so I know I could be wrong but man it's a strong and frequent experience. My thought is that the lspv is clogged or something. If so, maybe the rear brakes never fully or cleanly let go so creates a drag. It could, however, be that your brakes are dragging. Jack up the wheel and spin the wheel. There should be a slight amount of drag, but not much. Should make atleast 1 revolution... |
Well, right. I've done that and it spins okay. I know that it's possible that the front calipers won't release completely if the lines are clogged.. that's what I'm wondering about in this valve. That it's clogged, but with a little weight the valve opens a bit and the rear's work a bit better.
It's hard to explain the experience of having an empty truck strugglin' to stay at 60mph on the highway only to easily pass people while carrying a load. |
I would think the 400 pounds is enough weight that the truck rides smoother giving the illusion of more power.:fire2:
Just a thought |
Originally Posted by briholt
(Post 51865085)
Well, right. I've done that and it spins okay. I know that it's possible that the front calipers won't release completely if the lines are clogged.. that's what I'm wondering about in this valve. That it's clogged, but with a little weight the valve opens a bit and the rear's work a bit better.
It's hard to explain the experience of having an empty truck strugglin' to stay at 60mph on the highway only to easily pass people while carrying a load. If it were a residual pressure valve i could understand, but it's not. If theres no pressure to the rear, theres no fluid movement. Basically, the brake fluid is inert without the brake pedal being pushed. Essentially, the LSPV doesn't retain or hold pressure on the rear brakes, just limits pressure. If you want to try, take the bolt out of your axle that holds on the LSPV arm, and then zip tie it to your crossmember or frame.. If it changes, report back. Otherwise, i'm calling placebo effect. My guess is that when you have it loaded down you're probably mashing the skinny pedal, and it just feels more powerful. |
LSP-BV does this:
The "LSP" section- "Load Sensing Proportioning" section limits pressure from the master cylinder to the rear brakes dependent upon the load- that's what the arm across the rear axle is for. More weight in the rear lets more pressure from the master get to the drums. The "BV" section- "Bypass Valve" does what it says. It senses pressure from the front brake circuit and if the front brakes fail, it "bypasses" the proportioning valve section allowing full brake pressure to the rear wheels. I might attribute better mileage with some weight to the shift in vehicle "attitude", or how it is influenced by airflow, and the perception of better acceleration to the vehicle leaning "back", changing how the acceleration is felt by your body. |
X2. I couldn't put it better Abe. I am thinking attitude also. Brakes have nothing to do with this.
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I appreciate the posts.
I'm certainly not hitting the gas pedal any harder. That's something I've been paying attention to. The trouble shooting guide in the manual suggest that brake drag can be caused by several things, one of which is clogged lines. I've been trying to rule out various parts of the system and I'm now in the LSPV area. If I find a stretch of flat highway, maintain a speed of say 60, with and without weight in the back, Shouldn't the RPM's be a bit higher if hauling weight? I'll try disconnecting the LSPV arm control. Not sure when I'll have a chance, but I'll give it a go. |
Originally Posted by briholt
(Post 51865925)
If I find a stretch of flat highway, maintain a speed of say 60, with and without weight in the back, Shouldn't the RPM's be a bit higher if hauling weight?
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Originally Posted by briholt
(Post 51865925)
I appreciate the posts.
I'm certainly not hitting the gas pedal any harder. That's something I've been paying attention to. The trouble shooting guide in the manual suggest that brake drag can be caused by several things, one of which is clogged lines. I've been trying to rule out various parts of the system and I'm now in the LSPV area. If I find a stretch of flat highway, maintain a speed of say 60, with and without weight in the back, Shouldn't the RPM's be a bit higher if hauling weight? I'll try disconnecting the LSPV arm control. Not sure when I'll have a chance, but I'll give it a go. just go do it and put this to rest lol |
Originally Posted by peow130
(Post 51865961)
takes 5 minutes, and one wrench and a zip tie.
just go do it and put this to rest lol |
Originally Posted by briholt
(Post 51865925)
I appreciate the posts.
I'm certainly not hitting the gas pedal any harder. That's something I've been paying attention to. The trouble shooting guide in the manual suggest that brake drag can be caused by several things, one of which is clogged lines. I've been trying to rule out various parts of the system and I'm now in the LSPV area. If I find a stretch of flat highway, maintain a speed of say 60, with and without weight in the back, Shouldn't the RPM's be a bit higher if hauling weight? I'll try disconnecting the LSPV arm control. Not sure when I'll have a chance, but I'll give it a go. If you've a 5sp, it's a "straight-through" sort of thing; nothing can slip except the clutch. Gears mesh and nothing can slip so rpm's are directly related to speed. So if empty you do say 50mph in 4th at 2600 rpm's, you'll alway do 50 in 4th at 2600 rpms: changing the load won't change anything other than may make you take a bit longer to get to speed, but your rpm's in any gear will always have the same speed when you're in that gear... unless the clutch slips. |
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