permanent fuel pressure gauge
Hello all,
I believe I may have a weak fuel pump and want to verify my pressures before I post anything else (I admit up front my google-fu is severely weak). Anyway, I looked around on here and the web trying to find a guide or something to help me put together a permanent gauge set-up. Could anyone point me in the direction, or possibly have a link, to something that explains the assembly? Thanks for the help. matt z |
|
Note that the LCE gauge could be installed "permanently," but only under the hood. No one will (intentionally) sell you a gauge that involves running fuel (even a tiny line like for an oil pressure gauge) into the passenger compartment.
RAD4Runner installed a "permanent" gauge under his hood. https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...l#post52312190 He can comment on how well his gauge has stood up to the vibration. You COULD have a cabin-installed gauge if you used an electronic sender. Expensive. But in the end, you don't need to be watching fuel pressure day-to-day to diagnose a fuel pump. I installed a Schraeder valve to the banjo bolt next to the fuel pressure regulator. That valve comes in the following Actron gauge kit: https://actron.com/content/professio...ure-tester-kit You would usually use the gauge as a garage tool, but if you really needed to watch it while driving you could attach the gauge to the windshield with masking tape for a drive. The Schraeder valve is "permanent." |
In my old mustang days it was almost customary to run a "mechanical" fuel pressure gauge inside the cabin, especially with a boosted application. There was a proper way to do it though as you DO NOT want to run gasoline anywhere into the cabin. The system we would use was a combination of 2 lines (braided line) a damper and gauge. The end of first line (braided line) was attached to the fuel outlet and the other end to the damper.That line had gasoline in it. From the damper another line (braided line) was attached which fed the gauge. This line was filled with antifreeze and was sometimes a bear to bleed. Any part of the arrangement that had gasoline in it stayed in the engine compartment and the other part which was filled with antifreeze was safe for inside the cabin. The main point of failure in this type of system was the damper.
As RAD mentioned, an electrical gauge setup is always an option too. |
I'd really like to have an electrical sender and dash display to readily see FP when the intermittent rough idle on warm start happens, but no time to do it.
Originally Posted by scope103
(Post 52415583)
...RAD4Runner installed a "permanent" gauge under his hood. https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...l#post52312190 He can comment on how well his gauge has stood up to the vibration....
I used Valley Instruments, glycerin-filled (damping) # 53721 for $17 :) and fittings from LCE. https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...isSearch=53721 https://www.yotatech.com/forums/atta...psjemi0mg8.jpg Here it is at work: |
|
Thank you all for the input, I should of clarified up front that I did not intend to run a wet line into the cab. I was looking for a setup identical to or close to the one Rad4runner posted. I will admit the Schrader valve is also a good idea, however I am looking to "set and forget" in a manner of speaking. Thank you again.
matt z |
Originally Posted by 91-94yota
(Post 52415824)
... a setup identical to or close to the one Rad4runner posted...
An example of the benefit of a fixed pressure gage: A couple of days ago, I had the intermittent low-rough idle upon warm start after a 15-minute grocery run. Popped hood. Fuel pressure low. Disconnected FPR vacuum line to VSV to expose FPR to atmosphere, pressure increased, idle went back to normal (like in video above), reconnected and idle went low again, but as usual, after a few seconds it normalizes. Sidenote: I'm pretty sure that issue is because of the temp setting of the ECU temp sender (nxt to CSI switch, IIRC) which sits at a fine line. Doesn't bother much, though. |
The LCE kit comes with a threaded plug and claims that the gauge not be permanently mounted. The links above are the way to go unless you want that elbow in the LCE kit so the gauge faces forward.
|
Originally Posted by Paul22RE
(Post 52415837)
...claims that the gauge not be permanently mounted...
One picture above tells OP exactly what to get and where. :) |
Originally Posted by RAD4Runner
(Post 52415840)
Makes sense because un-dampened (not liquid-filled) gage has been known to fail. Gages are being used under more extreme conditions. It's a matte of finding the good ones like what Wallytoo and I did.
One picture above tell OP exactly what to get and where. :) |
Bought this one to replace the Mr Gasket one for my Weber
Hey Ray, don't be holding out on these great items:nono: https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to..._120056_120056 |
Originally Posted by NYHumpinUtah
(Post 52415850)
...
Hey Ray, don't be holding out ... Just sharing info with O.P. :) |
gauge
Ok, my earlier reply didn't post, and I didn't realize it until now. I should of stated up front that I had no intention of running a wet line into the cab, I wanted a gauge in the engine compartment for troubleshooting use only. I wanted one that I could permanently mount with a "set it and forget it" take on the matter. As in I could have it reading anytime I needed to diagnose without having to install and remove it every time. Rad had the exact idea I was going for with the information and picture I needed as I work better with pictures than words. Scope, the Schrader valve is good but not quite what I was looking for however, I will keep the idea on the shelf for any other applicable use. Thank you all again for the assistance.
matt z |
you did reply, but you set your text color to match the background, thus nobody could "see" it. use your cursor to highlight the "blank" reply and you'll see your response IS there. |
Originally Posted by wallytoo
(Post 52415991)
you did reply, but you set your text color to match the background, thus nobody could "see" it. How's your gage working, Wallytoo? |
Originally Posted by wallytoo
(Post 52415991)
you did reply, but you set your text color to match the background, thus nobody could "see" it. use your cursor to highlight the "blank" reply and you'll see your response IS there. wallytoo, how did you figure that one out.....funny |
Originally Posted by RAD4Runner
(Post 52415992)
LOL!
How's your gage working, Wallytoo? |
Originally Posted by wallytoo
(Post 52415997)
my liquid gauge failed after about two years, l... but when it arrived, it clearly wasn't....
|
|
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:08 PM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands