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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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No power after doing timing

I recently did the head gasket in my 93 4runner with 1994 22re. I got the timing where it should be but there is no power? Could this be vacum not hooked up right? Also i'm runnin 2" suspension lift, 3" body lift and 35" BFG all terrain's on 17" rims, can 4:10 gears push it or swap to 4:88?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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explain how you set the ignition timing and what value you used. Did you double check to make sure the crank to cam timing was right as well?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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After jumping the distributer the timing set to exactly 5 BTDC, please explain crank to cam timing
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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if you don't know what I mean by the timing between the crank and cam, then there is a good chance you got the cam 1 tooth off when putting in the timing chain.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Ya i was hoping that was not the case, could it still be vacuum? how do i get the cam lined up properly? is it possible that it is lined up and the reason for no power is the size of tires to the gear ratio of 4:10? it runs really well as is 750 rpm 1st gear is really strong but 2nd through 5th are sluggish?

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:31 PM
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sorry didn't see the fact you had changed tires in the middle of all this, but yeah it could be just the tires, that a big difference in size.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Ya its 5 speed manual trans, i just baught it for cheap cause of the blown head gasket, the guy i baught it from said he always ran 33's and just put on the 35's. could the big tires have blown the head gasket?











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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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In theory then if I up my horse power and up the gears it should be ok? what kind of performance upgrades can a 22re with 220 000 km take? Headers, cold air?

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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Thanks for the info! i am also thinking of doing a motor swap, is the v6 or chevy 350 small block better? if so would I have to re do everthing in the drive train? or just a re-build on the 22re? with 5:29 gears

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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In theory then if I up my horse power and up the gears it should be ok? what kind of performance upgrades can a 22re with 220 000 km take? Headers, cold air?
There is no magic bullet to up the horsepower on a 22re. About the only thing you can do is; intake - cam - exhaust. I think your missing what everyone is trying to say...you need to regear the truck if your running 35 inch tires. Period. Then always keep in mind, it's a 4 cly. truck.

Timing wise - Was the crank key and cam key way at 12 o'clock and the timing mark on the cam sprocket in line with the measurment on the timing chain (Cam to crank timing)?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 04:09 PM
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well if that cam to crank timing was off it would not run properly correct? it runs imaculate just a lack in power after 2nd gear
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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remember these 22re's bearly have more than 120hp when they rolled off the factory floor. Less than that in toque. They are not know to be powerhouses. 35's with factory gears kill what little torque there is.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Yes i'm deffinetly considering an engine swap
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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3.4L 5vze would probably be the easiest for you.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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For sure.
If you were carbed i'd say swap a 4.3L Chevy with TBI.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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to put in the 3.4 do i have to swap everything out cause its 4cyl? ie transfer case, tranny, diff, drive shaft?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jefferson82
to put in the 3.4 do i have to swap everything out cause its 4cyl? ie transfer case, tranny, diff, drive shaft?
From what I've read you better buy a whole parts truck; it will save you many a headache down the road. 4.10s with 35's, you're crazy dude! I'd be worried about your whole drivetrain running that size with stock 4.10s. I just did 4.56s with 31s and it's a smidge better than stock but not that great.

As far mods, all my stuff is bolt on or stuff iIcan remove and transfer to a different truck. I just did all the mods in my sig in the last few months, I have 303,000 km on mine.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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Yes i'm deffinetly considering an engine swap

Again, your missing the point here ...regear your diffs before you do an engine swap. You will have to anyways reguardless of what engine you have in there. A 3.4 engine on 4.10 gearing & 35's and you will be in the same spot you are in now.

Gears are a lot easier to do than an engine swap and a whole lot cheaper too and you might find out the gearing will suit your needs.
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