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Old 09-06-2009, 04:31 PM
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New guy, timing chain ?

Hello, I just bought a 1989 4x4 4 cyl. 5 speed, 226000 miles. Lady owned last 7 years (which is the good news as well as the bad). Not a speck of mud or dirt under it, but it was not maintained very well. I adjusted the valves the other day and checked the chain, it was loose. The guide on the pass. side was still there, but there is a groove cut into the case on the drivers side, about a 32nd deep. I am going to buy a complete kit from Engbldr Tues. My question is, is it ok to drive casually until I get the new parts? Need some opinions. Great site and enjoy reading all the posts I can. Thanks, Travis.
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well you can drive it but it is an interference engine meaning if the timing chain brakes or jumps some teeth the piston will hit the valves causing more damage and alot more $$ your call, but seen people drive a WHILE with busted t-chain guides, just wares a whole in the t-cover letting oil into the collant and vise versa
Old 09-06-2009, 05:09 PM
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Yeah you can drive, but like yoterr said, if something happens then you need new valves and pistons..

I did a tc about 2 months ago, used the EB kit, good stuff
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Thanks, I appreciate the comments.
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I drove almost 4 months with a destroyed driver's side guide but then again when the time came I didn't just do a timing job, but I did a complete rebuild, lol

another thing to consider buying would be a new timing cover from enbldr as well
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Yep, its pretty cheap from EB, cheap enough that its easiler to replace it then worry about the one thats on there..
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I'm with them on the cover, my cousin had a groove in his and used it anyway. It ended up leaking coolant into the chain area, oil and coolant mix trashed the engine 200 miles from home. Big mistake!
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I probably will only drive it to my buddy's house to do the job when the parts come in. I will order the cover and pumps also. On a little different subject, I have never wheeled in a 22re truck, stock, I have only been out in full size trucks and my Rubicon. ( I know, I should not have a Jeep and a Toyota at the same time). But these things are great off road, I have been told. So how are they? I am sure you off-roaders out there have an opinion. Thanks again, Travis.
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You shoudnt need a new oil pump unless you have bad oil pressure or something. The oem's are very very high quality. Almost never see one fail.


Toyotas are great Stock they can handle some pretty knarly stuff, its mostly up to the driver though. Their biggest downfall is open diffs...

Lock it and you will love it Easy to modify, and so very much aftermarket support (You jeep guys are already used to that though!)
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Originally Posted by Jay351
You shoudnt need a new oil pump unless you have bad oil pressure or something. The oem's are very very high quality. Almost never see one fail...
I agree; runs in oil, not much to wear out. When I got my '89 p/u the chain was making a racket. Didn't know anything about Toyotas until I found this site. I drove mine for a couple years rattling away, keeping my fingers crossed. Finally got the parts from here and there...rockauto, enginebuilder, stealer, etc. Figured I'd give it a try the short method leaving the head and pan in place. Worked fine, no problems. Was a bit apprehensive about the big nut securing the damper to the crank, but again no problema...5th gear, chocked, brake set firmly. Wasn't even much of a tug on a 1/2'' breaker. Worst part of the job was scraping and cleaning parts. One thing came up at almost the end...the two screws securing the front end of the pan to the timing cover just would not go. Only thing I can figure is the holes are machined out of place. Enginebuilder's cover and everything else about it was nice...good casting and machine work. In any case, no leaks from the pan or elsewhere. 11,000 miles since the job, and I can drive it on the frewway a couple hours and park it overnight, and no spots on driveway. First vehicle I ever owned that I can say that. Oh, and 154,000 miles on it when I did the timing chain. Good luck on yours. p.s. I didn't have a puller for tne damper. so I carefully tapped it off with a soft mallet. Had a pretty good vibration when I firts got it back together with the old damper. Ordered a new damper from rockauto and vibe was gone.

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Missing yota

Just rebuilt my first toyota engine (have built many domestics without a problem) and seem to have an issue. Set the timing according to specs and fired it up. Started almost immediately which is should have, but am having a problem that is driving me nuts. When I go to give it gas, it stumbles and won't accelerate. This is a 1994 Toyota 22 R/E that I just put into an 89. Any help would be appreciated sonce this truck craves to be back on the road not ion my garage.
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Have you checked and adjusted the TPS?
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decided to check that out as well as if the EGR may be stuck and to recheck the wiring to the injectors. Didn't really think the TPS would be a problem since i transfered the whole intake assembly from the last engine in there which ran fine, but for what is occuring, the TPS is a possibility (may of just decided to fry at the same time as starting the new one up).
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