Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

How loose should 22re timing chain be? (Loose guide also)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-30-2018, 04:41 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BobJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 31
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How loose should 22re timing chain be? (Loose guide also)

22re clacks a bit at start up. Thought it was stretched chain/bad guides. Pulled valve cover and plastic guides look new. Driver side guide moves back and forth at top approx 1/16"-3/32". Is that normal?

Balancer pulley moves from 0-10 degrees back and forth with engine off. Is that normal? Any way to check chain stretch short of removal? There is a slight polish on valve cover oil baffle directly over chain.

Thanks
Old 03-30-2018, 05:24 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
92ehatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Hendersonville NC
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The crank pulley will move back and forth as the chain slack takes up. That is normal. You are not supposed to move it counter clockwise btw. As for the guide, I'm not sure if that is supposed to move any.
Old 03-30-2018, 05:42 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BobJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 31
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks. Definitely didn't want to turn ccw, won't be doing that again. Might have a surprise when I start it.

Nissan had little match marks on timing gear/head. If it lined up with one, chain was good. If it lined up with other replace stretched chain. Thought Toyota might have had similar.
Old 03-31-2018, 12:08 AM
  #4  
Registered User
iTrader: (-1)
 
Co_94_PU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 5,433
Likes: 0
Received 554 Likes on 452 Posts
Your FSM has specs, length and link count. It pretty much has to come off and be checked in multiple places.

The spring in the tensioner does wear out from 'fatigue" as well the head wears down over time, both lead to noise at start up..
Old 03-31-2018, 08:56 AM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BobJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 31
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks. Did see the procedure/specs in TSM and others. Can't see tensioner, but guides look brand new. D I D brand timing chain and a local rebuilder's sticker so rebuilt at some point, guessing non oem tensioner.

Is the drivers' side chain guide supposed to have movement at top? Bolt has been bottomed and definitely tight. Didn't come across that info in TSM or others.
Old 03-31-2018, 05:59 PM
  #6  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BobJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Langley BC
Posts: 31
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Remembered I had old shortblock and dug it out. Plastic timing chain guide was tight. Last person in this one put wrong length bolt in.
Old 04-08-2018, 10:44 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
toyodabro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BobJ
Remembered I had old shortblock and dug it out. Plastic timing chain guide was tight. Last person in this one put wrong length bolt in.
Ahh bummer. That sucks. Another thing to check (yay!)-If you want to go through the process of removing the timing cover, you can check the bolt torque on the tensioner. There's three bolts so uneven triangulation can be an issue here-if one of the bolts it too tight, it can strain the tensioner incorrectly and inhibit the tension bolt from sliding in and out of it's housing properly. If you're saying the guides were installed wrong, this would be good to look at.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
davo247d
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
13
08-30-2009 06:57 AM
1993toy
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
45
11-29-2008 09:39 PM
1993toy
General Vehicle Related Topics (Non Year Related)
0
11-29-2008 02:06 PM
Toyota4ever
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
5
11-10-2007 05:10 PM
customcruiser
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
9
10-26-2006 03:28 PM



Quick Reply: How loose should 22re timing chain be? (Loose guide also)



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:51 PM.