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18_YotaLuv 03-31-2011 08:11 PM

A-Frame the rear shocks ?'s
 
How do u A-Frame your rear shocks?? And what r the pros and cons of it?? Seems like a good mod i would like to do later on after i get my longer shocks.

Thanx

peow130 03-31-2011 11:09 PM

Well.
You have to start with new shock mounts on both the axle and frame..
And pros: Better flex (pretty sure, atleast, dunno)
Cons: More body roll, stiffer ride (shocks fighting pressure to move inward when axle moves up and down parallel to the ground)
you'll also need to weld in a new crossmember, for the shocks to mount to

Sportsmanphil 04-01-2011 01:20 AM

Simple geometry.

IF a shock is directly up and down, for every 2 inches of axle travel, you will use 2 inches of shock travel.

IF you pitch it inward, you can install longer shock bodies (longer stroke) yet due to the angle for every 2 inches of axle travel, you will use less than 2 inches of shock stroke. Therefore if you improve your axle travel, this will allow you to fit shockes capable of handling the stroke.

However this adds leverage to the dampening affect, therefore you need to use a stiffer shock to equal a standard shock that is mounted directly up and down (if you want to match the dampening affect that is)

Some do state that it fights body roll however that is very minimal if measurable at all.

IF you have not increased the axle movement then dont waste your time, energy and money on mounting the top of your shocks inboard.

FourwheelinVT 04-01-2011 03:23 AM

Check out 4crawlers write-up, it should answer most of your questions
www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspension-III.shtml

cubuff4runner 04-01-2011 08:27 AM

Unless your shocks are limiting your suspension travel, don't move them in. If you do need longer shocks do the math and move them in the least amount possible.

xxxtreme22r 04-01-2011 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by peow130 (Post 51693925)
you'll also need to weld in a new crossmember, for the shocks to mount to

not really look at budbuilt. http://www.budbuilt.com/new/shock_mounts.html

Only issue I see that I don't like is it looks like it somewhat interferes with the e-brake cable and 1 or both brake lines will need to be re-bent.
But.... I wouldn't do this on a crossmemeber that is wielding signs of rust and rot like mine. lol.

http://www.budbuilt.com/P5140022.jpg
http://www.budbuilt.com/lowermount1.jpg

blake.nemitz 04-01-2011 09:56 AM

if you look in my back wheel well you can see my set up. they are not A'd but point from the axle back about 30 degrees or more and flexs great
https://www.yotatech.com/members/bla...5235-after.jpg

https://www.yotatech.com/members/bla...-7030392-n.jpg

18_YotaLuv 04-01-2011 06:55 PM

Thanx guys, that helped alot. I dont think ill waste the time in doing it tho :P Thanx again!!

Nimyad 04-01-2011 07:29 PM

Mine are 27 degrees in and probably about 30 degrees leaned back. Rides horrible because of crappy shocks but it travels way better offroad


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