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dfarr67 02-02-2010 01:38 PM

El Cheapo Alternator Upgrade for 22RE
 
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terryp500@yahoo.com is the man to talk to regarding this upgrade which can be viewed at http://home.earthlink.net/~twopapa/bigalt.htm#85up. Was looking to put more hp into my alternator by rewinding, converting to GM, etc (northern Canadian winters brrrr) when I came accross this mod which takes a 1994 Honda Del Sol Denso 90 amp and changes out the rectifier to Toyota. The unit is physically somewhat bigger than my original 60 amp, it fits- although I had to dremel out and press/epoxy a steel nut as the adjustment stanchion does not have threads like the old unit. Haven't fired this baby up yet as I am finishing up a head upgrade and timing chain but instead took the opportunity to change the unit while evrything was out. Another thing in make sure the new unit comes with a v-belt pulley as the original pulley will not fit the shaft is a larger diameter on the new unit. Another comment would be that there was minor shipping damage that was deemed by both Terry and I that it wasn't worth the shipping costs to rectify- he doubled the warranty instead. this is almost a direct fit.

iamsuperbleeder 02-02-2010 02:11 PM

intersting...

I'll be looking into that route if my 130amp aftermarket alt take a crap... again...


thanks!

dfarr67 02-02-2010 04:53 PM

Yeah, I was choking on some of those prices, this being a factory Denso variant it should prove very reliable. I'm sure there is way more powerful conversions out there like some of the GM varieties but this was simple.

BigBluePile 02-02-2010 05:24 PM

Interesting...

yoterr 02-02-2010 05:30 PM

hermm, so harness plugs in and everything? got any pics of the modification you speak of?

dfarr67 02-04-2010 04:46 PM

When I was reading the linked article, it seems Toyota used about 4 different plugs throught the years- but the rebuilder new exactly which plug was in the 4runner. I did not do the conversion myself- Steve did (partsbookie on Ebay) I won the auction on a reman Honda/Denso and he did the conversion at no extra cost, I insisted that cost was no issue for oem bearings and brushes but he said his components were as good and he would use a used oem Denso rectifier vs a new one from ???Taiwan. Fit was very good with no issues with PS pump or rad hose, just waiting for a lower rad hose to finish up.
Should be able to see pics on te first post.

BlackSR5 02-06-2010 04:38 AM

has anyone looked into another toyota platform for an alternator solution? I have an 89 pathfinder that came with a 60 amp and I was able to install an alternator from a maxima of the same year which was a 90 amp...both cars have the same engine, the maxima's being sideways front wheel drive. I swapped the pulleys and ground the spacer a tiny bit and it was a perfect plug in, bolt on upgrade...maybe a camery alternator would fit in a similar way?

yoterr 02-06-2010 06:55 AM

never looked into it but im sure somebody would have by now, instead of rewinding theirs, but its allways worth a try, and i re-read the post and i now understand what you had to do, lol i just read it to fast and was like whaaa?? epoxy a steel nut???

dfarr67 02-06-2010 09:00 AM

Ya the nut is a little hokey- but you have to accept the bad to get the good or tap the whole thing and I wasn't sure the adjustment slot would accept a bolt that diameter- not to mention I don't have a tap set. Too bad Toyota had to bury the alt so deep- I'm thinking the PS pump should have gone there as it has a remote res anyway- too hard to get at to play around with- I'm all about reliability here. As far as interchangeablility goes- I did my research and am happy that there is no direct fit out there- why else could the aftermarket charge so much for HO alt if people thought they could get away with a direct fit 90amp....To be honest I'm a GM/Chevy guy and at least for the older stuff there is good interchange. Just a note- Terry may be the guy to ask about that interchange business- BUT a comment was made that he has been doing this for 20 years and was both surprised and impressed with the article.

DeathCougar 02-06-2010 09:24 AM

Some of the newer Lexus models run 130+ amp alternators. Just sayin.....

BigBluePile 02-06-2010 09:44 AM

got any of those at Nix99??


:D

DeathCougar 02-06-2010 04:05 PM

Maaayyyybe....

They cost 'bout Tree Fiddy

dfarr67 02-06-2010 04:21 PM

Just sayin' what? The lexus alt will bolt/plug in? Wish I found that out beforehand, not even a whisper on the different forums....

DeathCougar 02-06-2010 05:11 PM

Plug in? Yes. Bolt up? No, not likely. The higher output alternators have larger cases as well. I though think it would be fairly easy to figure out how to mount it though.

dfarr67 02-07-2010 08:57 AM

Well my location is a little different- for example I've been waiting for over a week for a simple lower rad hose...bs. So I have to keep it simple for maintenance and availability with a limit on custom parts- the old alt will fit no problem, this is my only vehicle in this location, I should actually get another HO alt as a spare. The 90amp also was bigger- I wonder how many case sizes Denso used- if it is the same size as the Lexus- perhaps the guts will interchange with a case that requires little modification? Another question- my truck is pretty base- I thought 90a would be good enough- what situation calls for 130a? Big subs, winch, lights....I'm sorry you'll have to translate 'tree fiddy' as well....$??

dfarr67 02-09-2010 08:03 AM

Well in and running...

dfarr67 02-17-2010 10:30 AM

An update, pretty happy. At idle the rear glass and wipers aren't lazy anymore and the battery seems to be more robust.

Outsane 02-17-2010 11:15 AM

90 supra and cressida are supposed to be bolt in.. 90 amps

I picked one up at autozone $124, but it comes with a flat belt.

I ended up going with a rebuilt 130 amp for $90 instead.

I started with a 1984 40 amp, so I have to use the newer brackets and wiring too.


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