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bigdaddy87547 Mar 18, 2008 12:35 PM

code 71 and vacuum lines.
 
Hello fellow 4runner owners, i recently had my valve cover gaskets and pcv valve changed and after all was completed, about 5 miles down the road, the "check engine" light came on. after looking up the flashes, it is determined that it is code 71. Well after examining the work done i noticed that the vacuum lines appeared to be hooked up wrong. I am speaking of the 3 lines, one of which has the orange/black check valve on it. one line has a screw in it, another line is blocked off the plenum, and the third line seems to be fine (orange check valve line)

IF ANYONE COULD TAKE A PIC OF HOW THIS IS SUPPOSE TO BE, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. MY TRUCK HOWEVER RUNS PERFECTLY NORMAL.
heres a diagram

(line with a screw) * * (orange check valve on this line
* (line blocked off at plenum)
These lines are just behind the egr valve, next to cruise control.

The vacuum diagram under the hood doesn't help me

runethechamp Mar 18, 2008 02:14 PM

I have some pictures at home from my rebuild, so I'll post them tonight. It's a lot easier if you still have the vacuum lines with the numbers on them. Not sure it any of the lines you describe affect the egr system though.

FYI: I got a code 71 from not tightening all the nuts and bolts on the egr pipe properly so air could go in and cool down the exhaust just enough to give the code.

Yellowtruck Mar 18, 2008 02:25 PM

Just remove the EGR, plug the lines and push a resistor into the sensor coupling.....if you want to try it. Your EGR isn't "completely" necessary if you don't live in an area with smog tests. I removed mine and I'm completely happy with the results.
Do a search on "EGR valve, code 71 or blocking off EGR" and read the threads and see what you think before making your decision.

Victor Mar 18, 2008 03:11 PM

I vote against EGR removal. It isn't enough that people think we are a bunch of hooligans tromping in the wilderness but now we pollute while we are out there. Search for 93 pickup FSM - one of the members has posted the FSM that shows the vacuum lines. My orange and black check valve cracked so I just used a fitting to hook it up straight thru. I have the resistor in the wiring since my temp sensor isn't working but that shouldn't effect my emissions.

EWAYota Mar 18, 2008 03:14 PM

autozone.com has vacuum diagrams on their website.

toytech76 Mar 18, 2008 07:28 PM

why not take it back and make them fix it? Im sure they screwed up the vac lines

mr_schuster Mar 18, 2008 07:45 PM

Isn't there an emissions sticker under the hood indicating the emissions componenets and vacuum line routing and placement. Should be.

Georgiadave Mar 19, 2008 03:57 AM

Yellowtruck - Disconnecting the EGR is illegal. Assisting someone to do it could be conspiracy. Conspiracy is a felony. Good luck if you attract the attention of a DA or the US Attorney.

Yellowtruck Mar 19, 2008 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Georgiadave (Post 50782598)
Yellowtruck - Disconnecting the EGR is illegal. Assisting someone to do it could be conspiracy. Conspiracy is a felony. Good luck if you attract the attention of a DA or the US Attorney.

It's not where I live. Besides, have you taken a look at (read) how many people on this site have done, and reccommend, this removal? You might as well be throwing that threat their way too.
As I have said before, it's not everyone's cup of tea. Everyone has their opinions. There is no law against suggestions. You should go back and read up on how many people have done this removal AND suggested AND shown pictures AND given detailed instructions on how to do this and tell them of your concern.
I gave him and option. He can do with it as he pleases.
Or...as someone else suggested....take it back to the dealer and have them fix their mistake.

bigdaddy87547 Mar 19, 2008 04:05 PM

personally i wouldn't go to that extreme. mainly i just want the check engine light to stay off. I did take the egr pipe out of the plenum and noticed that the gasket was pretty much disintegrated. so i will try to put a new gasket on it and see what happens.

Georgiadave Mar 20, 2008 05:46 AM

Yellowtruck - Jails are full of smart guys like you.

runethechamp Mar 20, 2008 06:43 AM

EGR discussion aside, here's a couple of pictures of my vacuum lines:

http://lh5.google.com/runeiversen/R-...0/IMG_2993.JPG

http://lh6.google.com/runeiversen/R-...0/IMG_2994.JPG

http://lh3.google.com/runeiversen/R-...0/IMG_2996.JPG

Hope it helps.

bigdaddy87547 Mar 20, 2008 07:28 AM

runethechamp, thanks for the pictures.
[IMG]http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...nnervacuum.jpg[/IMG]

runethechamp Mar 20, 2008 08:45 AM

From the crude sketches in the FSM it seems like the vacuum lines controlling the egr are the ones you see in my last picture. If you look closely in my pics you can see the vacuum lines are numbered, maybe that can help make sense of the diagram under your hood?

jason191918 Mar 20, 2008 09:23 AM

http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...77exhaustg.pdf

Here is the requested diagram.

Yellowtruck Mar 20, 2008 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Georgiadave (Post 50783596)
Yellowtruck - Jails are full of smart guys like you.

Wow! You just can't let it go. You might wanna go back and read the forum rules, #2 in particular.
I love knowing that I'm far above your immaturity level. If you feel the urge to try and pick a fight or bash on other's comments or post's, you might wanna stop and consider your actions (comments) and the level of maturity your showing to other's.
You obviously have your opinions. I have mine.
Keep the bashing to yourself.

Jay351 Mar 20, 2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Georgiadave (Post 50782598)
Yellowtruck - Disconnecting the EGR is illegal. Assisting someone to do it could be conspiracy. Conspiracy is a felony. Good luck if you attract the attention of a DA or the US Attorney.

:nopity:

Unhook the EGR - you will get better mpg, a smoother running engine and you won't be feeding dirty exhaust back into your intake.

Im glad I did it to mine!

Georgiadave Mar 20, 2008 10:23 AM

Trying to keep you out of trouble. Sorry.

Yellowtruck Mar 20, 2008 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Jay351 (Post 50783785)
:nopity:

Unhook the EGR - you will get better mpg, a smoother running engine and you won't be feeding dirty exhaust back into your intake.

Im glad I did it to mine!

Good man! :D It works like a charm.
Yes...it may not be the "best" thing for the environment but, do we all really want to get into what is and what isn't best for the environment? That list can get very very long. Being ex-military, I could write up a whole book about our government is one of the biggest pollutors.

Yellowtruck Mar 20, 2008 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Georgiadave (Post 50783787)
Trying to keep you out of trouble. Sorry.

In that case Georgiadave, I appreciate your concern.
We can now move on like adults.
:grouphug:


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