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Slayer99 01-08-2019 09:11 AM

Cluster swap question
 
I have a 92 pickup 5 speed manual 2.4 I picked up an SR5 cluster from a 93 4runner V6 3.0 automatic transmission 4WD my question is should I remove the bulbs that do not pertain to my vehicle or will it cause issues with the cluster? Thanks

se7enine 01-08-2019 10:02 AM

I do know on mine I had some bulbs missing so I added all just to have spares on the cluster and a gauge stopped working but it may have been coincidence. Think it was the voltage. Then I removed all the unused bulbs and it started working again. From the back view it looks like some bulbs complete a circuit. I would start by removing the bulbs not needed and see if it has any effect. If it does follow the path from what isn't working and see if it's tied to a missing bulb.

Paul22RE 01-08-2019 11:31 AM

Are you also swapping the black surround bezel? It will not be an exact fit but can work with a little cutting of tabs and hole mounts.

Discombobulated 01-08-2019 04:24 PM

Swapped my cluster in my 91dlx pickup and had no issues leaving everything as far as bulbs alone.

Co_94_PU 01-08-2019 07:00 PM

The cluster in my 94/2wd 5 spd is the cluster from a 4wd automatic, I didn't remove any bulbs. In fact I believe I swapped all the blub cages from the original into the auto to have on hand as spares.

The only "wild card" is the dash harness, you can't have any sources to ground the multi guage/cluster doesn't expect. You would have toxo sule the pin out (wiring diagram) of source and donor (like the big sticky thread recommend)..

Slayer99 01-09-2019 05:19 AM

Thanks guys, swap is done I just left all the bulbs in and everything is working except the oil pressure gauge which I have to swap out the old sensor for the gauge version, it’s unplugged until then. Paul22RE no just the gauge cluster.

scope103 01-09-2019 06:16 AM

I hope you remembered to disconnect the oil pressure switch BEFORE you plugged in the new combination meter.

Slayer99 01-09-2019 06:45 AM

I sure did, Thanks

Discombobulated 01-09-2019 03:22 PM

Sweet, I found this upgrade to be the more rewarding one of the sr5 options:)

Slayer99 01-14-2019 03:04 PM

Spoke to soon, I picked up a new oil sender, it said for use with gauge, but the gauge is reading extremely low, when I’m on the interstate the highest it goes is a tad above 1/4 on the gauge at idle it’s at 0. I’ve been reading there are two different types perhaps I got the wrong one? Here is the one I got. https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b...070=With+Gauge

se7enine 01-15-2019 05:50 AM

I've got over a 1/4 gauge reading deviation from idle to drive as well although mine is max a little over half way and around 1/4 at idle. My last 22RE was max under 1/2 and almost 0 at idle. I think it will always vary depending on condition of oil gauge and engine. Maybe a genuine OEM gauge will read better I don't know.

Discombobulated 01-15-2019 08:47 AM

I would just get a OEM from a yard, yota Jim’s here in Colorado ship, give them a call and check it out. Mine does read low though I will take some pics here in a few to compare to your readings. These gauges from what I can gather don’t tell me much besides I have pressure. As long as it’s moving that’s all I need as it’s still better than the idiot light:)

Discombobulated 01-15-2019 09:04 AM

Here is at idle from a warm start, but on a hot day it usually is a smidge lower after driving


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...295fd8db5.jpeg

Here is at 2800 no load, but honestly I can’t remember that it gets much higher during higher RPM’s, I’ll check it out on my way home.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...8de7dd505.jpeg

scope103 01-15-2019 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Slayer99 (Post 52415926)
... the gauge is reading extremely low, when I’m on the interstate the highest it goes is a tad above 1/4 on the gauge at idle it’s at 0. ...

That's about what mine reads with warm oil. Reads a little higher (at idle) when the oil is cold.

You know, of course, that the meter has no calibrations so you can only use it in a relative sense anyway.

Slayer99 01-15-2019 11:15 AM


Co_94_PU 01-15-2019 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Slayer99 (Post 52415976)

​​​​​​put a numeric guage on it if you really want hard numbers to compare..

Note ​​​the position when the engine isn't running this is the rest position, it will climb above this when the engine is ran. That first section of the scaled guage is fine at and near idle. The third and forth sections are bad places and indicate the filter bypass is active..

Bottom line, if it moves in to section one and stays out of the last two it is good. If you want actual psi you need a numeric guage.

Slayer99 01-16-2019 03:06 AM

Guess I was just expecting it to be higher on the gauge, comparing to my cobra which it above half on idle and 3/4 while driving.

Discombobulated 01-16-2019 03:32 AM

I mean you could try a different sending unit but might be in the same boat, you know the truck runs great so as long as the gauge is in the spots your used to that tells you all is well. I have never been concerned about where it’s at as long as it’s doing something:)

I was just excited to have more moving stuff in my cluster and a tach!!!

Slayer99 01-16-2019 03:46 AM

I agree, I might try a different sender as I found one that specifies Yazaki so might try that.

Slayer99 01-17-2019 09:00 AM



So I picked up the other oil sender that specifies Yazaki as that is what my cluster says on the back it appears to have worked.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...8feddd9ea.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...d89921343.jpeg



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