4 whelin with turbo?
any disadvantages. nothing serious just some trails and mud.
Thanks Parker |
Nope - no problem. Obviously, you will want low gears and keep the RPM's up so it stays on the boost.
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As finnicky as turbo motors can be, I would have a hard time really wheelin' a turbo'd gas truck out in the boonies unless I was sure it was rock solid.
I suppose if the boost is kept low, it would be alright. I've had a couple boosted cars, they like to break...Alot of thats on me though. :) |
Mud'll ruin a turbo real fast if your air filter somehow falls off. Trust me on that one lol...
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i wouldnt wheel a turbo in the mud...
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I think an auto might be fine, but try'n to wheel a manual turbo might proof to be difficult, because of turbo lagg and all...
but I've riden shotgun in some turbo mudders before... there's nothing quite like the sound of a blow-off valve chirping while mud is falling down on the roof, lol if I had the extra cash, I'd do it just to be different... and because I heart turbos :D for wheeling though, a super-charger or even a pro-charger setup would work MUCH better... torque and hp curve steady through most of the hole RPM band, as apposed to a turbo'd system... no power... no power... no power... 4500RPMs, BOOM! TWICE THE POWER... and you quickly either sink down into the mud as your tires spin, or roast your tires on that rock your trying to get over... |
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
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I think an auto might be fine, but try'n to wheel a manual turbo might proof to be difficult, because of turbo lagg and all...
but I've riden shotgun in some turbo mudders before... there's nothing quite like the sound of a blow-off valve chirping while mud is falling down on the roof, lol if I had the extra cash, I'd do it just to be different... and because I heart turbos :D for wheeling though, a super-charger or even a pro-charger setup would work MUCH better... torque and hp curve steady through most of the hole RPM band, as apposed to a turbo'd system... no power... no power... no power... 4500RPMs, BOOM! TWICE THE POWER... and you quickly either sink down into the mud as your tires spin, or roast your tires on that rock your trying to get over... It all depends on how big the motor/turbo are. If you stick a melon sized turbo on a 22r then ya you are going to wait..wait...wait.. then spin all 4 wheels and dig yourself in like described. But I think a 13t or something would be awesome on the 2.4 liter. My point here though is that turbos arent just on or off, the more gas you give the more boost they make (until you hit peak). With a 13t or something boost would come on at low rpm and stick til mid rpm and make INCREDIBLE torque. It would only take a few minutes to get used to your new found power. |
Originally Posted by Jadri
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Turbos can be very dependable and predictable. All modern rally cars use turbos. I think a turbo'd truck with a sealed snorkel would be DOPE.
It all depends on how big the motor/turbo are. If you stick a melon sized turbo on a 22r then ya you are going to wait..wait...wait.. then spin all 4 wheels and dig yourself in like described. But I think a 13t or something would be awesome on the 2.4 liter. My point here though is that turbos arent just on or off, the more gas you give the more boost they make (until you hit peak). With a 13t or something boost would come on at low rpm and stick til mid rpm and make INCREDIBLE torque. It would only take a few minutes to get used to your new found power. |
I play in the mud with my stock Turbo 22RE. All it takes is a little bit of driver skill to keep it in the boost range. The lag isn't that bad. It's all gear selection.
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Originally Posted by Skinsfan6
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I play in the mud with my stock Turbo 22RE. All it takes is a little bit of driver skill to keep it in the boost range. The lag isn't that bad. It's all gear selection.
Oh, and as for the filter falling off comment - that would be bad whether you have a turbo vehicle or not. |
I have a turbo on my truck. Its a t3 garrett. Nothing serious. I also have a steed speed manifold which compliments the turbo very well. Spool up immediatly. I can get full boost as low as 2000 to 2500 rpms I think. Been a while since I have actually noted how early I get full boost but it is way befor 4500 and even before 3000. Of course it depends on how you drive it also. If you gradually get up to say 2500 then I am cruising at just below positive boost. However there is some pressure loss due to the intercooler. My sds system reads of the intake after the throttle body and is always lower than my boost gauge which reads right of the turbo. Boost gauge reads 5 psi when sds reads around 1 maybe less. Obviously the sds reading is the correct one. Of course I also have stock non turbo compression so I have normally aspirated 22re power with little to no boost so lag is not an issue. I can def tell when the boost hits but it is not as noticable as say a wrx that I rode in once. I would not recommend this compression unless you have a high dollar managment system with wide band etc for offrad use where you see a lot of rpm. The system allows me to retard the ignition as necessary and dump enough fuel in to keep it from pre igniting. I run premium and some times a whole bottle of octane booster to be on the safe side if I know I will be offroading. All that being said I love the way my truck performs offroad. I stay away from water, not so much mud(well really deep mud) for now as I do not have a snorkle yet. But that is a wise idea turbo or not.
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hey thanks for the responses i think i will go with a small turbo.
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good call.
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Originally Posted by parkkicks
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hey thanks for the responses i think i will go with a small turbo.
thanks again |
Steed Speed.
Use a Garrett turbo, not a CT-20 (stock toyota). For a small one, .42/.48 T3. It still supports about 200hp and will spool almost instantly on a 22re. |
Originally Posted by dcg9381
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Steed Speed.
Use a Garrett turbo, not a CT-20 (stock toyota). For a small one, .42/.48 T3. It still supports about 200hp and will spool almost instantly on a 22re. |
Let gears do the work at low speeds and use buy the turbo for highway speeds- what its good for.
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Originally Posted by Matt16
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Let gears do the work at low speeds and use buy the turbo for highway speeds- what its good for.
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