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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 01:02 AM
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3vze fuel pump replacement recommendations?

What fuel pump manufacture would you guys recommend since the oem is overpriced for me.
My fuel pump seems like its worn out. I dont even know if its ever been replaced. Its a 1989 3vze.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 08:23 AM
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by millball
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so your have the denso part number? Rock auto doesnt have it?
the toyota oem fuel pump is over 300 bucks on yota shop and cant afford that right now.
luckily truck still runs but it wont drive it far for now.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 03:02 PM
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The online parts catalog shows two OEM part #s for the fuel pump.
Aisan 23220-16084, a little over $300 online price from Toyota.
NipponDenso 23220-16190, a little under $300 online price from Toyota.

Amayama price is about the same as dealer.
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by prcnctoyo
The online parts catalog shows two OEM part #s for the fuel pump.
Aisan 23220-16084, a little over $300 online price from Toyota.
NipponDenso 23220-16190, a little under $300 online price from Toyota.

Amayama price is about the same as dealer.
thank you. The oem pump is pretty pricey. I might have to get a cheaper pump for the mean time and save up for a oem later.
any other brand you guys recommend
rockvauto doesnt have denso

I dont know much about us motorworks? I know gmb makes good parts
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Old Jul 18, 2024 | 06:46 PM
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Before you replace the fuel pump (it's kinda a big job), what diagnosis have you done? With no instruments you can check for flow by replacing the fuel return line with 6mm (1/4") tube to a suitable container. Then start the pump with the jumper, and measure the flow. There is no spec, but I get 1/2 liter / minute.

(Don't "crack" a high pressure fitting just to see the spray. The crush washers are one-time use, so you'll need to replace the pair if you do that.)

Next, you'll want to check the fuel pressure. For that, you need a gauge with the proper adapter; this Actron gauge https://www.ebay.com/itm/363649578151 includes the correct adapter.

If you find the flow is not enough, I'd change the fuel filter before the pump. That's not an easy job either on the 3vze https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...62/index2.html , but the part is about $270 cheaper, even if you go OEM.

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Old Jul 19, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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Yotashop, LCE, 22RE Performance, etc are ok sources for oddball stuff, but terrible pricing for regular oem parts. They charge significantly more.
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Old Jul 19, 2024 | 06:05 PM
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@scope103 thanks for the reply. Looks like that fuel pressure is now longer available. Do you know what adapter I need to order separately or a different kit
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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 05:54 AM
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Dang. Actron no longer makes a gauge useful on a 35-year old truck? What's this world coming to....

A reason to use the Actron gauge is the Schrader fitting. Which was probably a lot more common when you were in short pants. Now, you're going to have to build your own. You'll need a 12mm banjo-bolt adapter.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/250408476337
https://www.autometer.com/12mm-banjo-bolt-adapter.html
and an inexpensive 60psi gauge:
Amazon Amazon

Rad4Runner has even done all this for you. https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...l#post52312190 Note he has a 22re; you might need to do some head scratching to make sure your parts will fit into a 3VZE.

Don't forget to pick up several pairs of 12mm crush washers. They're cheaper than dirt, but I've only been able to find them at the dealer. Always get at least 2 more than you need. They have a clever habit of popping out of your hand and rolling into the grass.

Last, what would we DIY types do without a link to AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804958707155.html Note that idle fuel pressure (33-37psi) is about 2 1/4 bar, so the range on this gauge isn't such a good match. But it will definitely give you some Fast and Furious vibe!

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Old Jul 20, 2024 | 10:12 AM
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I can't believe a fuel pump $26-$44 is worth much. You might order two, so you have a temporary back up when it breaks. I mean, seriously. When the only consideration is price i don't know how to respond.



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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by scope103
A reason to use the Actron gauge is the Schrader fitting. Which was probably a lot more common when you were in short pants. Now, you're going to have to build your own. You'll need a 12mm banjo-bolt adapter.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/250408476337
https://www.autometer.com/12mm-banjo-bolt-adapter.html
and an inexpensive 60psi gauge: https://www.amazon.com/SENCTRL-Press...C2YDP4C8/?th=1
if anyone is doing this on a 22re, that 12mm adapter is too big for the cold-start injector fitting on the 22re, it's really irritating :-/ i know because i mistakenly got this one for $12.99:
Amazon Amazon

after a lot of searching i finally gave in and bit the bullet for the absurdly overpriced lce adapter, but i paired it with an in-cab fuel pressure gauge, so i can compare fuel pressure against a vacuum gauge that's also in the cab.
Amazon Amazon

some people mount a fuel pressure gauge fitting into the end of the fuel rail.

as far as fuel pumps go, carter has been making pumps for a long time, but who knows where they are getting that cheap pump from... i got a new denso 951-0012, "made in japan", with my truck when i bought it 13(?) years ago, but it's been discontinued, interestingly the production had moved to china: https://www.densoproducts.com/denso-...tric-fuel-pump

the big box retailers still list that part number at a reasonable price, even if they can't ship it, so the supply chain for it probably died with covid, along with our ex53 igniters that are nla... i don't know who "nippondenso" is, but denso itself stopped making fuel pumps for our trucks: https://www.densoautoparts.com/part-...ssRef=951-0012

i suspect that we'll get made-in-china pumps even from toyota itself, which would be o.k. if they are a quality part.







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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 01:51 PM
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Denso started out as Nippondenso. The company name changed in 1996.
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