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fuel383 10-29-2017 10:39 PM

2TR 4Runner 94 swap
 
Hi.
Recently this year bought a 94 4Runner, with a rebuild 3VZ, i knew it was going to be a matter of time to change that engine, it came rather early than expected. Anyway, while looking for a 5VZ found a 2TR-FE with a manual transmision for about $275 bucks. So, it begins.
My plan is the following:
-Check for any obvious damage, clean it, etc
-If the engine is viable, buy a complete timing kit
-buy ECU
-see what else comes up.

I would greatly appreciate any help on this attempt of a swap.


Regards.It has a nick on the block a a broken bracket
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...1c5c3b728d.jpgFan clutch is gone.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...0e380eb7b7.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...3942261e48.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...f1b1263f08.jpgCloser look at the fab clutchx
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...9d0b6e8a2d.jpgYeah, I need to buy the 4 coils.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...d9b35d282a.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...f896656e6c.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...6c819c1117.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...f69cdc4a01.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...ea0f890484.jpg

wyoming9 10-29-2017 11:43 PM

Best of Luck !!

I guess you have your reasons .

Should be very interesting

muddpigg 10-30-2017 10:33 AM

Sweet!!!! That bell housing should allow you to bolt up a W56 series transmission. You will have a couple option for motor mounting. If my research was correct it mounts same as the 3RZ so you can buy bolt in mounts or cut, trim, and reeled your current mounts/brackets. I think wiring will be your biggest challenge will be wiring. I haven’t seen any PNP harnesses but maybe ORD or toysolutions can help. Of course you can get wiring harnesses from donor vehicle and FSMs for both years and make your own. I’m really interested in this swap so please post progress... thanks!!

fuel383 10-30-2017 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by muddpigg (Post 52380880)
Sweet!!!! That bell housing should allow you to bolt up a W56 series transmission. You will have a couple option for motor mounting. If my research was correct it mounts same as the 3RZ so you can buy bolt in mounts or cut, trim, and reeled your current mounts/brackets. I think wiring will be your biggest challenge will be wiring. I haven’t seen any PNP harnesses but maybe ORD or toysolutions can help. Of course you can get wiring harnesses from donor vehicle and FSMs for both years and make your own. I’m really interested in this swap so please post progress... thanks!!

I'm going with the manual transmission, I need to look further into the motor mounts, since I really don't have a clue if the 3VZ or the 3RZ mounts should work. About the harness, it came with the harness, sans ECM. What should I be looking for regarding the whole wiring?

fuel383 10-30-2017 06:11 PM

UPDATE.https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...97d2bd35c2.jpgFan clutch is busted. I think the donor vehicle was involved in a rollover or some accident.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...11ac92c2a4.jpgYup, lot of rust. Had to come to a halt trying to separate the engine from the transmission. Some bolts are really rusted, they are being soaked in a penetrating solution.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...96548e14bd.jpgYup, engine is stuck. It doesn't turn.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...3c928f9258.jpgIt's as bad as it looks? 2 or 3 lobules from that cam have light rust. Hope it doesn't affect the function.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...d56423fbb1.jpgOn the other hand, chain and sprockets look clean.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...7677f6756c.jpgPlastic cover has a hole, i'm thinking that some engineering with plastic or metal, jb weld and 4 screws with pressure washers and nut would do the job.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...19d84adc73.jpgAlmost striped and a whole more to come. After separating the engine from the transmission, a quick trip to the shop will tell us the damage.

muddpigg 10-31-2017 01:43 AM

Don’t think the manual tranny from the 3.0 will bolt up but the 22re tranny will using bell housing from 3tr. Also let’s you run gear driven transfer case instead of chain driven. I’m not sure if 3.0 motor mounts are in same location as 22re knowing Toyota they probably are.

fuel383 10-31-2017 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by muddpigg (Post 52380916)
Don’t think the manual tranny from the 3.0 will bolt up but the 22re tranny will using bell housing from 3tr. Also let’s you run gear driven transfer case instead of chain driven. I’m not sure if 3.0 motor mounts are in same location as 22re knowing Toyota they probably are.

O.o 22re????

3VZE and 22RE have use the same manual transmission. I'm sticking with the manual transmission that is attached to the engine. I'll look further into making it 4x4, maybe i'll start with a simple IFS setup.
Thanks for your input.

muddpigg 11-01-2017 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by fuel383 (Post 52380963)
O.o 22re????

3VZE and 22RE have use the same manual transmission. I'm sticking with the manual transmission that is attached to the engine. I'll look further into making it 4x4, maybe i'll start with a simple IFS setup.
Thanks for your input.

no later 22re uses a W series tranny except the turbo. The 3vz uses an R series tranny. Toyota made life simple W series was small bolt pattern from tranny to bellhousing and R series was large bolt pattern from tranny to bellhousing. The 22ret used the R series tranny but had a bellhousing that allowed large bolt pattern tranny to bolt to 22re motor.

ooh brain fart, I assumed you were 4wd if your 2wd not a big deal use tranny that came with motor.

fuel383 03-02-2018 06:33 PM

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...6dffc5d2a.jpegTaking apart the 2TR, gunna need a good clean.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...10c46004c.jpegsome minor repairs, new gaskets and bronze plugs.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...5156efdd8.jpeg2TR transmission bell with R150 transmission, what do you know? They actually fit!
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...921ca6bff.jpegGood ol' cleanin' to transmission too.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.yot...7755dd2e2.jpegNew gasket here.

fuel383 03-02-2018 07:03 PM

If anyone has done this swap, any advice regarding the engine mounts would be of great help.

Alpine_motors 01-03-2019 01:08 PM

Hey man. I'll attach a link to my thread that may cover a little of the information your missing. Prob should've posted it under a more general thread to get some more exposure, but whatever. Hopefully you're still trying to tackle it. It's awesome to drive!!

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f161/completed-2tr-fe-87-22re-4runner-306336/


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