1988 3vze 4runner w/ '91 engine, need clues
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1988 3vze 4runner w/ '91 engine, need clues
I have a 1988 4runner original 3vze. I put a running '91 3vze A/T engine in it($50). the ecu is original to the engine, I also have a stick ecu. however the truck is a 5spd... I hot wired the starter.
the Ih2 connectors are different but Ih1 plugged right in. Does anyone know what wires from Ih2 are needed?
I got a wiring harness from a 91 extra-cab, but Ih1 is different so that did not work at all, but I got the correct Ih2 plug so I have something to work from.
I have +12 on pin 1 of the ecu, but not pin 12 & 13. I think thats the crux of my problem.
I am missing something. I need a clue.
the Ih2 connectors are different but Ih1 plugged right in. Does anyone know what wires from Ih2 are needed?
I got a wiring harness from a 91 extra-cab, but Ih1 is different so that did not work at all, but I got the correct Ih2 plug so I have something to work from.
I have +12 on pin 1 of the ecu, but not pin 12 & 13. I think thats the crux of my problem.
I am missing something. I need a clue.
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Can you start at the beginning?
You have a 3VZ out of a 5 speed and you're putting it into an AT?
You shouldn't have to do anything to your existing computer or harness, you change over the sensors on your motor?
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The 91 engine is originally an A/T. I switched it to a stick engine w/ clutch. So there are extra wires underneath for the A/T that simply have no home anymore. I just got a stick ecu from a 91 extra cab yesterday. So those wires may not matter anymore.
I get no voltage to the distributor either.
I got the truck it had a sbc in it, so the previous owner has done some bad things. He wanted a "mall cruiser" with a big bad stereo. Broke his back and could not finish it. So I bought it and all the parts he had, minus the engine. hence the 91 3vze that i thought could work in it, but is obviously not plug compatible.
I get no voltage to the distributor either.
I got the truck it had a sbc in it, so the previous owner has done some bad things. He wanted a "mall cruiser" with a big bad stereo. Broke his back and could not finish it. So I bought it and all the parts he had, minus the engine. hence the 91 3vze that i thought could work in it, but is obviously not plug compatible.
Last edited by skypilot; 09-17-2010 at 03:16 PM.
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Ok, plan B
I do not have a correct '88 engine, the previous owner got rid of it, and left me with an SBC short block in its place. I only have the '91, so I must go to plan "B" and make the '91 engine "think" its in a '91. I have two '91 ECU's 1 A/T and 1 M/T, with the M/T installed. The '91 engine ran perfect prior to being pulled, so I seriously doubt its the problem.
I found a statement on Supra swaps that IH2 was instrumentation only. So that leaves IH1 which is plug compatitible.
So I must be missing +B to IH1 pin ????? in another place since I have +B on pin 1 of the ECU. It must somehow back feed to pins 12 & 13 on the ECU connector T2.
Anyone have the IH1 pinouts? There must be a 2nd +B somewhere in that connector. It must missing due to some unseen damage in the chassis harness, from an alarm system patch probably.
I found a statement on Supra swaps that IH2 was instrumentation only. So that leaves IH1 which is plug compatitible.
So I must be missing +B to IH1 pin ????? in another place since I have +B on pin 1 of the ECU. It must somehow back feed to pins 12 & 13 on the ECU connector T2.
Anyone have the IH1 pinouts? There must be a 2nd +B somewhere in that connector. It must missing due to some unseen damage in the chassis harness, from an alarm system patch probably.
#6
i have all the wiring and ecu, 88 injectors and sensors here if it would help... all came out of the 88 that my engine came out of and i had to put all the 89 stuff on mine
Last edited by bigliltruck; 09-19-2010 at 03:15 AM.
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Yes the SBC swap would have been easier but it was missing way too many parts, and needed machine work. I still think about that and kept the Advanced Adapter mounts for later.
I have two of these trucks now, the 22re runs fine with 330k miles and the v6 has yet to start. LOL
I have two of these trucks now, the 22re runs fine with 330k miles and the v6 has yet to start. LOL
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yes; like a 22re that I have a matching transmission and transfer case for, but no engine. So like a fool I thought this 3vze would be a plug compatible easy cheap swap, and not a fool's errand its turning into.......
I think the blue one is getting a 3mgte swap, along with a Marlin Crawler 4:70 xfer case gear swap. maybe even an FJ80 front diff.
I think the blue one is getting a 3mgte swap, along with a Marlin Crawler 4:70 xfer case gear swap. maybe even an FJ80 front diff.
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well i also have a rebuilt 22re here with all the harnesses lol
might say i have a toyota boneyard here. but we actually just finished putting a 22RE into an 88 runner and had to make custom mounts because the perches on the frame where your motor mounts bolt are like 2" futher back on a v6 frame *fyi*
might say i have a toyota boneyard here. but we actually just finished putting a 22RE into an 88 runner and had to make custom mounts because the perches on the frame where your motor mounts bolt are like 2" futher back on a v6 frame *fyi*
Last edited by bigliltruck; 09-20-2010 at 11:21 AM.
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Ok; got it running!
Three hot leads, one is battery for memory (non-switched) two are hot from efi relay. Black red wire; pins 11 & 12 are from EFI and pin 1 memory. I have three wires in a makeshift harness to supply power and ground.
Hot wire the CSI with +12 for no more than 3 sec's or else. Functions as a manual choke or squirter on a carb. aka pump the gas pedal.
Roll key to start to run fuel pump, (until I find fc signal on ecu to run pump)
Three hot leads, one is battery for memory (non-switched) two are hot from efi relay. Black red wire; pins 11 & 12 are from EFI and pin 1 memory. I have three wires in a makeshift harness to supply power and ground.
Hot wire the CSI with +12 for no more than 3 sec's or else. Functions as a manual choke or squirter on a carb. aka pump the gas pedal.
Roll key to start to run fuel pump, (until I find fc signal on ecu to run pump)
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