Thommo Thompson

just humor me, if u can, try remove the idle (slow) jet and try to get it to idle by using the idle mix screw as the jet. so bring it in to about 1.5 turns from seat and go from there. If that improves things, then yes the idle jet is probabyl to small, or may even be blocked or the main jet (which is in line before the slow jet) could be blocked.
Dont suppose the carb has a fuel cut solenoied does it (little solenoid wiht wires coming out of it on the carb)

L5wolvesf

Try either way and see how it lines up. And, FWIW, the 32/36 does not have a fuel cut off solenoid.

cascades

Thanks Tommo. I thought things were stock, I'm not sure what I am working with now. I'm just trying to verify that my timing is correct and working properly before getting the carb dialed in.

cascades

Pulled it out and reinserted in one tooth counter clockwise, seemed to line up ok. Fired it up and heard some chattering near the dizzy under the valve cover. Thought maybe I didn't get the gears fully meshed? Turned it off and tried to remove the distributor. It's stuck, I can't rotate to adjust timing and will not pull out.

I pulled the valve cover off this morning to have a better look at what is going on. Gears appear to be meshed. Something is binding it up.

Noticed that I've got slack on the driver's side timing chain, 1/4" or so of play. Should that be tighter? Chain stretched? It's got the plastic chain guides, though they appear to be intact from what I can see from the topside.





Chain slack on driver's side

Thommo Thompson

Just to throw another thought around, is that fuel pump lever arm ok? Looks wrong

L5wolvesf

Yeah the arm isn't riding where it seems to have been - good eye.

Can you turn the motor by hand?

cascades

Agreed, was surprised to see the arm riding that way. The wear marks show where it had been. It is still making contact and functioning. Yes, no problem turning the motor by hand. Cam and valves look fine.

I was able to get the distributor unstuck and reinstalled. There was a washer between the distributor and the block acting as a thin spacer. I neglected to put that back in during reassembly and I think caused the gears to be slightly misaligned and bind up. When I put the washer in, everything was fine. Moving it a tooth either direction put it way off, so installed per FSM directions. I set the air gap to 0.3mm (it was less than 0.2mm) Fired it up. Set the timing to 0*. Readjusted carb per weber instructions. Still sitting at around 1000 idle rpm. Took it out for a 20 mile test drive and all seems ok. No weird noises, no hesitation, no stalling.

Any thoughts on that fuel pump lever?

Thommo Thompson

well have u tried jsut windin the idle speed down to about 800?

L5wolvesf

Re the pump arm, if you can't see if it is bent then you'll need to take it off to see what the problem is. If it continues to ride on the edge like that it will grind on the cam lobe.

What happens when you back off on the idle screw?

cascades

Backing out the idle screw causes it to idle rough, stumble and die.
Thinking about getting a digital tachometer for testing purposes. Double check my gauge. Give me an excuse to have one in the shop. You guys used one? Have any recommendations?

L5wolvesf

You might want to search here for "22R timing" IIRC there are a number of posts re timing at 5 degrees being better.

I use an ancient Craftsman tach/dwell unit to check mine.

Thommo Thompson

ok so if it wont idle less than 1000 rpm, not discounting the likelyhodd that timing is aecting it, the absolute most likely and first suspicion is that the idle jet is not supply enough fuel.
With it idling as low as you can get it to idle smothly, can you get the engine hot, and get it to that idle, and then look down the primary throat and verify that it is not running fuel from teh main jet in the middle of the little venturi holes?
If you can see fuel spraying out into that primary venturi at your lowest idle, then id suspect it simply cant idle on the lower slow idle jet.

Thommo Thompson

its more common than not, that someone buys a car from previous owner, and the previouos owenr has just wound up the idle to hide the fact that the carby isnt supplying any fuel or enough fuel to the slow jet.

cascades

Well, I got a digital hand held tach for testing. Turns out my dash gauge is not all that accurate. I'm sitting at about 800 rpm on a warm engine now. I was much lower than that so turning out the screw caused it to die.
I ended up replacing the fuel pump. I pulled the old one and the arm was bent and the cam was wearing a groove in it. Cheap enough to replace and is now riding on the cam where it should. Not sure what caused that, but will keep an eye on the new one.
Thanks all for the tips and suggestions.

Thommo Thompson

im surprised that the gauge can be off by that much. I thought they were always correct, perhaps i too need one of these digital hand tachs.