Pre 84 Trucks 1st gen pickups

1st Gen Truck (1981) LED dash lights swap

Old 12-11-2012, 07:39 PM
  #1  
Fossilized
Staff
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dropzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PNW
Posts: 19,771
Received 448 Likes on 293 Posts
1st Gen Truck (1981) LED dash lights swap

LED Dash light conversion:
after 30 years the bulbs in 1st gen trucks are pretty anemic/ for just the guages you will need 6, 13 total if you convert all the bulbs
remove the cluster and you will find the bulb holders, just untwist them and swap out the 194's for the LED's
Name:  DSCN2590-1.jpg
Views: 3237
Size:  11.0 KB
stock bulb on left, LED on right..
Name:  2012-12-07203702.jpg
Views: 3133
Size:  365.2 KB
stock bulbs are 194's, if you search superbrightleds.com for 194 LED or T10 you will find a wide assortment available and a wide price range..I got mine off ebay, 10 for $9.99..again there is a wide variety of options and prices
stock bulbs
Name:  2012-12-07203913.jpg
Views: 3029
Size:  346.0 KB
green bulbs with 5 SMD LED's
Name:  2012-12-07203800.jpg
Views: 3041
Size:  33.2 KB
installed:
Name:  20121211_181812.jpg
Views: 3349
Size:  21.9 KB
i might swap white LED's down the road...
Old 12-11-2012, 07:57 PM
  #2  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
cman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: greenville,wi
Posts: 856
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
does your dimmer still work?
Old 12-12-2012, 01:07 AM
  #3  
Fossilized
Staff
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dropzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PNW
Posts: 19,771
Received 448 Likes on 293 Posts
Dimmer still works as it should
Old 12-12-2012, 06:06 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
Bingle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Spokane, Wa
Posts: 591
Received 26 Likes on 22 Posts
Wow, those are a vast improvement. Didn't know there was such an easy swap. Thank you for the write up!
Old 12-12-2012, 03:51 PM
  #5  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
red1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Alaska
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is great, I noticed my new truck's dash lights are a little dim AND I CAN GET PURPLE!
Old 12-12-2012, 04:30 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
Rollz79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Springfield Oregon
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I painted the inside of the cluster white. Still haven't got cluster back in truck yet.
Old 12-22-2012, 08:47 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
OregonCoastGhost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Seaside, Oregon
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My '81 has the same issue, and this thread is really exciting. Thanks for posting. Going to do this ASAP.
Old 12-27-2012, 05:45 PM
  #8  
Fossilized
Staff
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dropzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PNW
Posts: 19,771
Received 448 Likes on 293 Posts
Threw a couple of LED's into the Voltmeter and Oil pressure gauge cluster.
the bulb is a 1445, I just searched 1445 LED bulb on ebay. got a couple of them for $5 delivered.
Name:  20121227_075453.jpg
Views: 2946
Size:  34.3 KB
Name:  20121227_075521.jpg
Views: 2994
Size:  50.7 KB
old anemic output again...I don't think the voltmeter was working..
Name:  20121223_074429.jpg
Views: 2982
Size:  7.5 KB
Name:  20121227_174652.jpg
Views: 2980
Size:  12.6 KB
Old 12-28-2012, 07:44 AM
  #9  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
shacal13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: upland ca
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
These turned out great. I read through this yesterday and didn't think mine were too bad but last night when I was driving I turned my phone cam on and I couldn't even see my gauges through it. Not too worried though I'm going to be having a dash made for the truck and I have some autometers going in it which will have led bulbs installed before hand.
Old 01-02-2013, 12:07 AM
  #10  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
RobotMoose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calistoga, CA
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nice!
I was just thinking about this tonight on my drive out to work.
Any plans for the little lamp in the heater controls? I've been trying to track down the P/N for that guy, which gets hard without an FSM.
Old 01-02-2013, 03:08 AM
  #11  
Registered User
 
suncomb1's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Downingtown, PA
Posts: 684
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Part number for the lamp is in the Owners Manual. Only the bulb output wattage is in the FSM.
Old 01-02-2013, 04:16 AM
  #12  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
RobotMoose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calistoga, CA
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by suncomb1
Part number for the lamp is in the Owners Manual. Only the bulb output wattage is in the FSM.
Sadly, I have neither. I did pick up a Hayne's manual, only to find anything really technical I sought be listed as "see Service/Owner's manual".
Old 01-02-2013, 04:22 AM
  #13  
Registered User
 
crawler85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by shacal13
These turned out great. I read through this yesterday and didn't think mine were too bad but last night when I was driving I turned my phone cam on and I couldn't even see my gauges through it. Not too worried though I'm going to be having a dash made for the truck and I have some autometers going in it which will have led bulbs installed before hand.
You are going to make a custom cluster with gauges?

I am looking into doing the same, please let us know how you are going to build it.
Old 01-02-2013, 06:14 AM
  #14  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
83Toyota88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 1,220
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by RobotMoose
Sadly, I have neither. I did pick up a Hayne's manual, only to find anything really technical I sought be listed as "see Service/Owner's manual".
I have a thread where you can download a full FSM for an 83
Old 01-02-2013, 07:26 AM
  #15  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
shacal13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: upland ca
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by crawler85
You are going to make a custom cluster with gauges?

I am looking into doing the same, please let us know how you are going to build it.
I am almost a 100% sure I'm going to have a aluminum dash made and then im just going to put auto meter gauges in the aluminum dash. pretty straight forward. sorry for the thread jack didn't mean too. just need to find a local shop that's quick about it as this is my dd lol

the reason i want to just have one built is my pad is thrashed and those are super expensive and then the face of the dash where the heater controls are is all cut up and stuff so to me its just easier to build a whole new dash probably cheaper than trying to locate a the parts to make it look new again.

Last edited by shacal13; 01-02-2013 at 07:41 AM. Reason: adding info
Old 01-02-2013, 07:41 AM
  #16  
Registered User
 
crawler85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by shacal13

I am almost a 100% sure I'm going to have a aluminum dash made and then im just going to put auto meter gauges in the aluminum dash. pretty straight forward. sorry for the thread jack didn't mean too. just need to find a local shop that's quick about it as this is my dd lol
That's cool and all but you will still need to fabricate a panel for the check engine lights, turn signals, 4 wheel drive, etc.

Please start a new thread when you go through with this, good luck!
Old 01-02-2013, 07:43 AM
  #17  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
shacal13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: upland ca
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by crawler85
That's cool and all but you will still need to fabricate a panel for the check engine lights, turn signals, 4 wheel drive, etc.

Please start a new thread when you go through with this, good luck!
will do
Old 01-03-2013, 02:55 PM
  #18  
Fossilized
Staff
Thread Starter
iTrader: (6)
 
dropzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: PNW
Posts: 19,771
Received 448 Likes on 293 Posts
Originally Posted by RobotMoose
Any plans for the little lamp in the heater controls? I've been trying to track down the P/N for that guy, which gets hard without an FSM.
I actually wasn't going to worry about it but your post got me to thinking.
It is a #24 bulb. the LED replacement is a T6.5 LED
the #24 on the bottom is tiny compared to the 194 cluster bulbs (upper)


here is what superbright LED's has: http://www.superbrightleds.com/searc...0t6.5%20wedge/
again I ended up going to ebay, ordered a couple of them, should have them here by the end of next week.

Not sure about the 82-83 trucks but on my '81 the bulb is mounted just above the heater controls, not behind it

it actually puts out a ton of light, this is in daytime:
Attached Thumbnails 1st Gen Truck (1981) LED dash lights swap-20130103_152912.jpg   1st Gen Truck (1981) LED dash lights swap-20130103_153114.jpg   1st Gen Truck (1981) LED dash lights swap-20130103_153244.jpg  
Old 01-07-2013, 06:00 PM
  #19  
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
CAdot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
. . .

Last edited by CAdot; 07-10-2016 at 05:48 AM.
Old 01-07-2013, 11:07 PM
  #20  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
RobotMoose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calistoga, CA
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CAdot
i now have a 1980 pickup. ok, i was in my gauges today to fix the beam indicator. i fixed it but when i was in the cluster i noticed that all the bulbs were white. in my old 85, some of the bulbs had a green cover to light up green when turning on lights. i put everything back together and the lights still looked greenish. i noticed that the backing of the cluster housing had a green tint which might of contributed to the gauges looking a little green. so that brings me to my question. those of you who did this LED swap and chose WHITE, did you notice any green tint when used in the slightly green back housing?

i hope i made sense...
It makes perfect sense.
As far as I've seen all first-gens came with a green-dyed perspex lens between the light bulbs and the back of the gauges. It acts as a filter to keep the harsher spectra of the lamps from blinding the driver at night.
It'll be green with or without those little light bulb condoms.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: 1st Gen Truck (1981) LED dash lights swap



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:07 AM.