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Old 12-06-2012, 09:20 PM
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Toyota PickUp/4Runner Long Travel kit 86-95

We are a small shop located in Southern California, and we are developing a long travel kit. This kit can be purchased and shipped out no issues. before i start posting pictures of the build i would like to make sure it is ok to post things like this or do i need to pay a fee to advertise our work?
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or you can send money via paypal to me
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Right on. Just wanted to make sure i didnt upset anyone.

This kit will provide a boxed lower and upper arm using uniballs so no ball joints to worry about, Brake lines, and all hardware. The new axles can be purchased at any auto parts store. The kit will need t100 front axles. We can also arrange for the axles to be sold with the kit if desired.
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We got the lower mock up arm in place already notice some small changes to be made but moving forward
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What kind of prices are we talking here? They look nice and beefy, can't wait to see the final product.
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makes me wanna go back to ifs... couldnt be that hard
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Watching this....keep us informed
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looks good so far. going dual shocks with a coilover like the chaos kit?
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Definitely want to see more info on this! Any chance it'll be easy on the wallet (compared to other LT kits)?
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MORE PICS How bout a kit for the newer 3rd gen runners?
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Great, just what a sluggish market needs, another fly by night LT. Chaos has the high end and Blazeland has the low, where is your customer base going to come from?
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Originally Posted by BlazeN8
Great, just what a sluggish market needs, another fly by night LT. Chaos has the high end and Blazeland has the low, where is your customer base going to come from?
You guys make a Long Travel kit now? I've only seen that mid-travel kit you guys make with the stock A-arms.
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Look closer, Blazeland is LT. It is around 3.5" over stock on both the LCA and the UCA. It uses a T-100 CV axle like everyone else does. It cycles 12" of travel.

FYI- any LT kit that uses a T-100 CV cannot exceed 12" of travel. You can use heim joints on the steering, uniballs on the ball joints, or what ever else is out there, but its a moot point as the T-100 CVs are the limiting factor. Granted it is possible to build custom CVs and/or relocate the front diff to a "Center Mount" configuration and get more travel but that will cost a pretty penny!

FYI- A T-100 CV is around $75 each new at any auto parts store, that is why its used. If you have the skills you can take apart the inner joint "Tri-pod or the Barrel" and clearance it to get a tiny bit more travel. Its a difficult, messy job for disassembly and re-assembly and takes some time with a grinder.

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12" metal to metal, and well last time I checked you gotta have bump stops. I would consider that mid-travel. 15"+ would be Long Travel range. But that is out of stock 4x4 range, 2wd has prowess in that area.

FYI- You don't have to go to customs CV's, You can mill new flanges for the front diff and switch to u-joints. It is rarely done tho, but it's another option. I had a customer who built a Polaris Ranger with a 3.4 and a 4runner front diff and thats what he ran on it.
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I guess everyone has there own definition of mid travel. What many people consider LT is when the both the UCAs and LCAs are replaced with longer arms and associated components. Mid travel is typically upgrading the UCA only. There are also certain race classes that allow increase lengths to control arms but only by 2" This may be considered mid travel? Downey had a 2" over stock control arm kit that was termed LT. I do know that JD Fab, Chaos, etc who use T-100 CVs to define the geometry of there suspension a termed mid travel. I would put Blazeland into that category as it shares the same geometry as well as wheel travel specifications.

Yeah, of course you have to have bump stops, droop stops, limit straps when your driving the vehicle. But for defining the geometry you measure the theoretical maximum of metal to metal. We are speaking specifically now on the 1986-1995 Toyota 4x4. This is to compensate for bump stop and droop stop compression. If everything checks out at the theoretical maximum, CVs, ball joints, tie rod ends, shock lengths, etc then you know with bumps you now have a safety factor because it is unlikely one will compress a stop to zero.

I have a set of Downey Slip Yoke CVs that use the new flanges and a Spicer U-joint. I bought these back in 2001 and paid over $600. They were horrible. Downey said it was for low speed applications only. Boy they weren't kidding, the vibration was terrible at 10 MPH. Do you have any photos of your customers Polaris drive axles?

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Originally Posted by BlazeN8
What many people consider LT is when the both the UCAs and LCAs are replaced with longer arms and associated components.

I have a set of Downey Slip Yoke CVs that use the new flanges and a Spicer U-joint. I bought these back in 2001 and paid over $600. They were horrible. Downey said it was for low speed applications only. Boy they weren't kidding, the vibration was terrible at 10 MPH. Do you have any photos of your customers Polaris drive axles?
Well your kit uses stock UCA. Yes it has a Ball joint extender on it, but it is stock. I looked through all my photos and I only have a couple pics of the beast. Basic pictures for posting it on race-dezert. None of the drive line. Although I can say I drove it on pavement in 4x4 up to atleast 70mph and I didn't notice any vibrations, the shafts were made by a guy in so-cal somewhere.
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Back to the main thread, lets see some updates on that LT!
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here is our complete mock up arms. modifications have been made but you can see what they will basically look like.
I know chaos and other companies are out there and yes this pulls the 12" ouf travel. It maximizes the t100 axel. This kit is designed for anyone to purchase an affordable/great quality kit and hit the dirt with if. Anyone can purchase and get a hold of axles at any autoparts store. If there is a demand for a more custom approach we are more then willing to meet it, custom axles witch can lead to a wider kit, modifications not a problem.
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Our customer will be heading out for new years so this kit will move along a little quicker this coming week


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