weakyota91

ok me and a friend have been having a argument for about 6 months as to wether or not u get the full pulling capacity of your electric winch with all except 5 wraps out on the drum or least amount possible line out. every manual i read says u loose about 500 pounds of puling power for every wrap of cable on the drum he swears otherwise. somebody resolve this little argument THANKS

Good Times

the more wraps you have on the drum the pulling power is diminished so having almost all of the line out will give you the greatest pulling power.

d0ubledown

more cable spooled out. not necessarily stronger, just more pulling power.

weakyota91

thank you GOOD TIMES i was right. he was trying to winch out out a 3 quarter ton dodge the other day from a ditch with a ramsey 9000 mounted on his jeep TJ from about 5 feet away from the bumper and he couldnt figure out why his winch kept bogging down. yes 4 one the truck weighs queit more than the 9000 winch and his 3500 lb jeep but i could not get him to back up 70 feet and anchor to a tree. It took Two toyotas in 4lo and his winch to get him out

WATRD

Any Warn tech specifications page would answer this question definitively.

Here's the specs on mine, notice the last column;

tc

Sounds like y'all need some practice/lessons on recovery.

First, the Jeep should have been anchored to something STURDY.

Next, you should have used a snatch block for a pull like that, essentially doubling the pulling power.

And yes, fewer wraps = more pulling power (best illustrated by Rob's post above)

BruceTS

You said 5 wraps... I'm guessing the physical amount of line wrapped around the drum. You lose pulling power only after the line starts to overlap other layers increasing the diameter of the drum.

FredTJ

Which is EXACTLY why one needs to get a winch that's rated at least 1 1/2 times the GVW.

Several people seem to think that a 6000 lb rated winch is fine for a 4Runner.
It's no where close to being fine.





Fred

tc

Actually, it's why people need to use snatch blocks A LOT more than they actually do... (although with a 6000 lb winch, you better be ready to use it EVERY time!)

rrmike

I did note the last column and what rocket scientist wrote that?

1 layer 95000 lbs and 4313 Kgs.

2nd layer 38650 lbs and 927 Kgs

3rd layer 7920 and 3595

Think a little proofreading might be in order

AH64ID

Yeah I was noticing that... A winch that can pull 95000 punds. SWEET

Corey

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And for the proper use of snatch blocks, I have had this pic on my site since 2002.

It comes with a Warn winch.

91_4x4runner

Certainly an interesting read Corey. How much does a snatch block cost? (I'd search but I'm at school and our proxy blocks it for obvious reasons)

WATRD

I think our "proofreaders" have missed the point of the thread. So, to keep them from further muddying the waters, here's a corrected version of that chart that I found.



:pat:

AH64ID

Thanks Rob

WATRD

They tell me "the devil is in the details"...

Corey

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Here is the kit I have.
http://www.central4wd.com/inventoryd...folder%7C15596

It came with one, but you can get them seperatly, and also ARB makes a nice looking one.

Phil (strap22) carries a lot of ARB stuff, see if he has them at www.trdparts4u.com and you can also PM him here to find out.

AxleIke

Someone actually thought 6k was enough? My old man has an 8k, and that barely cuts it. We use the snatch block almost 100% of the time, although i'm not sure it actually needs it, but we like to be on the safe side.

WATRD

Often enough that I get tired of inserting myself into the argument. WAY too many people seem to think that getting less winch is a prime place to cut corners and save a few bucks. Too me, that's like buying the "bargain" brand parachute.

If I could wedge a 12k in my bumper I would. 6k is nowhere near enough and 8k is right on the border line... I have even stalled my 9.5k on a few really bad stucks...

tc

EXACTLY. People don't seem to think of recovery gear as the life saving equipment it is... discussed to death in the "which winch other than warn" thread....