Zpd426

Cool glad to see a good product getting some attention .

@ MRZ, B-yodaful, Are you guys going to use coilovers?

MR.Z

Not a full coilover conversion no, assisted possibly. But initially just good old shocks and torsion bars.

B-yodaful

Later I think I will run coilover but for now I'm doing the same as Mr. Z Although i have to worry about the extra weight of the motor.

Zpd426

How much more does the motor weigh than stock? On my t100 I had about 100lbs of steel on my nose for my front hitch and tow setup (not as much as a bigger motor prob but it was on the nose). I bounced off the bumps pretty hard a couple times with no failures.. hard enough to make me stop and say holy crap that was loud i better check everything. 600lb spring no hoop reinforcement. I have not taken it to the desert yet though

As far as the full coilover conversion I would rec-amend it. The shock hoops are correctly engineered. The angle the shocks push against the hoop is very close to vertical in line with the vertical part of the tube coming from the frame. It will be very hard to bend the hoop at all. Also the way the hoop is welded to the frame is correct and wont harm your frame. A friend of mine has the total chaos kit and the way they welded the hoop directly to the frame has failed multiple times (Because the frame walls are thin) taking pieces of the frame with it. I bet TC has fixed the design by now though... He had one of the early torsion bar kits. The torsion bar mount failed also.

Disclaimer: Nate told me to reinforce the hoops if I am going to be hauling through woop sections which Is pretty much the standard for any truck with any hoop. you have to have a cross bar going from hoop to hoop if you really beat on it with repetitive motion.

Now im just blabbing.. guess I needed to talk truck for a while haha. post some pics when your done!

MR.Z

Zpd426, do the 33's fit without a struggle, are they 12.5 or 10.5? and what does your track width look like? I guess it will probably be a different story for my truck seeing as you have a t-100 and i have a pickup but i'm just wondering

MR.Z

Zpd426, Do the 33's fit easily? are they 12.5's or 10.5's, and what does your track width look like? I guess none of that info will be relevant to my truck seeing as you have a T-100 but i was just wondering?

MR.Z

Sorry! thought my first one didn't post.

Zpd426

Check out my build thread in my signature. Someone just asked me that Haha 12.5s had to trim and hammer.

snowshredder555

Hey N8...you plan on making a setup for the 3rd gen.s?

BlazeN8

I looked into it but can't see anyway of creating an innovative design. What is all ready out there from the other guys is how I would end up doing it..... so there is no point. Modification to stock UCA / LCA does not seem feasible.

ToyoTech559

my main goal for LT was for the ROCKS at crawler speeds. i have and dont think i will really test it on any high speed stuff but i do drive around 20+ mph on crappy fireroads to the trail head with pot holes everywhere. i can say it does soak up the bumps alot better than my previous set up which was pretty good imo. which was bj spacers and OME shocks

ToyoTech559

MR.Z

Blazeland Kit is in! Now i'm just waiting for the bilsteins to arrive.

ToyoTech559

nice. looks like what i had a few months ago haha

BlazeN8

Good stuff! Like the flex photos and video Toyotech! Mr. Z any luck on Torsion Bars? You didn't mention them? Here is a link to Camel 4x4. http://store.camel4x4.com/category/1...?fromPage=Home Talk to Eli, tell him its for Blazeland and he may give you free shipping?

MR.Z

I haven't really been thinking about t-bars seeing as i'm a little low on the cash right now but next paycheck i'll check those out! Free shipping is always nice, Thanks!

BlazeN8

Well you better start thinking about them! Stock 22mm T-bars don't have enough spring rate to overcome the additional leverage created by the long arms. Even at full crank on the adjusting bolt the front will sag and you will be bouncing off the bump stops. You need 25mm T-bars to provide enough spring rate. Or you could also keep your stock bars and add a coil over assist with a 200-300lb spring. If you want to do a full coil over conversion you will need a 600lb spring.

Zpd426

Congrats!

I went full coilover. Its pretty nice.
I have some EDIT 25mm (not 28) 300m bars just sitting. So sad noone has a t100 that needs them. maybe I will put them back on just to see what it does. My 600 spring is a little soft but I like it that way.

Anyways while the thread is hot... Hey N8 and other Blazeland users out there, is there a Internal bypass or even triple bypass shock that fits in the stock location? I am going to have my internal bypass shocks on the rear when I get around to installing the mini deaver pack. I am thinking the front wont keep up with it.

Im not really going to be bombing through the desert or anything but it will be nice to slow everything down before I hit the bump stops when I do drive at moderate speed and have an oh #$@^& moment.

B-yodaful

Hey Z lets got any pics of that coilover?
Nate I still need those brake lines i just haven't been able to work on the runner yet. GOt 7 month old twin girlies their kinda keepin me away from my runner.

ToyoTech559

im running the stock 22mm torsion bars. works great imo. i even have an arb front bumper and winch.