turbonator (cheap supercharger thing) maybe for 3.slow
02-27-2005, 04:06 PM
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turbonator (cheap supercharger thing) maybe for 3.slow
http://www.turbonator.com/index.html...rdsToylexSuper
Just thought I would throw this out there for all of you looking to supercharge your 3.0 or whatever I dont know if it works or not but you can judge for yourself. Good luck.
If anyone has one of these let everyone know what they are all about.
Just thought I would throw this out there for all of you looking to supercharge your 3.0 or whatever I dont know if it works or not but you can judge for yourself. Good luck.
If anyone has one of these let everyone know what they are all about.
02-27-2005, 09:13 PM
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$70???
bawhahahahaha!
Why do you think we try to get rid of the obstructions in the intake/exhaust? To get more air in/out of the engine. Not slow it down
Just saw you were in mooresville... you know jon and matt?
bawhahahahaha!
Why do you think we try to get rid of the obstructions in the intake/exhaust? To get more air in/out of the engine. Not slow it down
Just saw you were in mooresville... you know jon and matt?
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02-28-2005, 03:20 AM
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Ya want fast? Save your $70 and use it to get a Honda Civic.
Ya want to go 4wheelin' and then get to the grocery store and work the next day...Stick with the 3.0. Slow has worked for me for....geez...haven't owned a fast car since a '66 Mustang back in the 70's.
Ya want to go 4wheelin' and then get to the grocery store and work the next day...Stick with the 3.0. Slow has worked for me for....geez...haven't owned a fast car since a '66 Mustang back in the 70's.
02-28-2005, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gwhayduke
Ya want fast? Save your $70 and use it to get a Honda Civic.
Ya want to go 4wheelin' and then get to the grocery store and work the next day...Stick with the 3.0. Slow has worked for me for....geez...haven't owned a fast car since a '66 Mustang back in the 70's.
Ya want to go 4wheelin' and then get to the grocery store and work the next day...Stick with the 3.0. Slow has worked for me for....geez...haven't owned a fast car since a '66 Mustang back in the 70's.
WAIT!! You owned a '66 stang and you just equated a HONDA CIVIC AS BEING FAST??? WTF? Your muscle car driving privelages have been revoked for 1 year!!! lol
What I love about that site is the Feedback! Read this:
"In a completely stock 99' Dodge Neon sport, I gained ten horses and went from 34-37 wheel horsepower to 44-47 wheel horsepower (using a G-Tech Pro performance meter). I have also noted (when I drive responsibly) a gain in gas mileage. I also lost a full second off my Quarter-mile times; from 16.8 to 15.8 and probably could have done better with more time with the G-Tech."
-Francis Mize (Cincinnati,OH)
bwaahahhahahaa
it gets better by all these seat of the pants dyno people
"This device made my Pontiac perform smoothly and with faster acceleration. I honestly felt a 20 horsepower gain. It's hard to believe considering it's such an inexpensive device. Within a two month period, It paid for itself from the gas savings. I told all my friends about it and they now think it is as incredible as I do."
-Donald Roberts, Boise, Idaho
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02-28-2005, 06:28 AM
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Maybe if he said "Ya want fast? Save your $70 and use it to get a Turbo Supra." it might have gone over better.
Hopefully those are considered fast enough to qualify.
Hopefully those are considered fast enough to qualify.
02-28-2005, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin' Yota
What I love about that site is the Feedback! Read this:
"In a completely stock 99' Dodge Neon sport, I gained ten horses and went from 34-37 wheel horsepower to 44-47 wheel horsepower (using a G-Tech Pro performance meter). I have also noted (when I drive responsibly) a gain in gas mileage. I also lost a full second off my Quarter-mile times; from 16.8 to 15.8 and probably could have done better with more time with the G-Tech."
-Francis Mize (Cincinnati,OH)
bwaahahhahahaa
"In a completely stock 99' Dodge Neon sport, I gained ten horses and went from 34-37 wheel horsepower to 44-47 wheel horsepower (using a G-Tech Pro performance meter). I have also noted (when I drive responsibly) a gain in gas mileage. I also lost a full second off my Quarter-mile times; from 16.8 to 15.8 and probably could have done better with more time with the G-Tech."
-Francis Mize (Cincinnati,OH)
bwaahahhahahaa
02-28-2005, 06:58 AM
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not that anyone believes that this type of system will work, but I'll chim in anyway to try to explain why they don't work.
These eletric superchargers only produce air flow. If your car had a crappy intake (as far as filter plumbing) then yes, this might ad 1-2hp, because your engine might not be getting all of the air that it can get. This will in no means produce big HP numbers.
No, you have to understand the very basic fundamentals of a turbocharging/supercharging to fully understand what I'm saying. Atmospheric pressure is about 14.7psi. The term boost refers to boosting pressure above atmospheric....NOT boosting HP though that is the end result. The only way to do this is by using a compressor.
Someone might think that they're really smart and say something like what about turbines. They're essentially a big fan that compresses the air to produce thrust. The problem with that thought is that the compressor portion of the turbine uses several fans with stationary blades that line the inside of the case to help produce compression. It also depends on the expanding gas inside the combustion chamber.
Anyway you slice it, a simple fan can NOT produce pressure above normal atmospheric pressure in the size that is needed to put into an intake pipe.
These eletric superchargers only produce air flow. If your car had a crappy intake (as far as filter plumbing) then yes, this might ad 1-2hp, because your engine might not be getting all of the air that it can get. This will in no means produce big HP numbers.
No, you have to understand the very basic fundamentals of a turbocharging/supercharging to fully understand what I'm saying. Atmospheric pressure is about 14.7psi. The term boost refers to boosting pressure above atmospheric....NOT boosting HP though that is the end result. The only way to do this is by using a compressor.
Someone might think that they're really smart and say something like what about turbines. They're essentially a big fan that compresses the air to produce thrust. The problem with that thought is that the compressor portion of the turbine uses several fans with stationary blades that line the inside of the case to help produce compression. It also depends on the expanding gas inside the combustion chamber.
Anyway you slice it, a simple fan can NOT produce pressure above normal atmospheric pressure in the size that is needed to put into an intake pipe.
02-28-2005, 06:59 AM
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Honda Civic!?!?!?!?! PALESSSSSSE DO NOT BECOME ANOTHER RICER!!!! SHEESH PULL UP NEXT TO THAT CIVIC WITH THE *COUGH COUGH* PAGODA AIRFOIL IN A LOTUS ESPRIT TURBO AND BLOW HIS D@MNED DOORS OFF!!! 
As to the hair dryer turbo/supercharger...don't bother.
As to the hair dryer turbo/supercharger...don't bother.
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02-28-2005, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 1994toyotaboy
What a load of garbage the 'turbonator' is. Just like all the snake oil products out there.
Only electric device I have seen that works to boost pressure is something like this:
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
.....just notice it pulls 57 AMPS @14V! ....to make 1 psi of boost.
02-28-2005, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin' Yota
WAIT!! You owned a '66 stang and you just equated a HONDA CIVIC AS BEING FAST??? WTF? Your muscle car driving privelages have been revoked for 1 year!!! lol
Yeah, I might have written that one better guys. Yep the Mustang was faster than the Civic. But the Civic can leave the 3VZE in the dirt. So if you're searching for cheap speed from the 3.0...save the money and go with a Civic.
But if ya happen to find a restorable '66 Mustang Fastback, let me know. I might be able to slide that one into my garage with short-circuiting my wife's radar.
02-28-2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
Pretty much.
Only electric device I have seen that works to boost pressure is something like this:
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
.....just notice it pulls 57 AMPS @14V! ....to make 1 psi of boost.
Only electric device I have seen that works to boost pressure is something like this:
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
.....just notice it pulls 57 AMPS @14V! ....to make 1 psi of boost.
But I dont think Ill go that route either.
03-01-2005, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MTL_4runner
Pretty much.
Only electric device I have seen that works to boost pressure is something like this:
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
.....just notice it pulls 57 AMPS @14V! ....to make 1 psi of boost.
Only electric device I have seen that works to boost pressure is something like this:
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/
.....just notice it pulls 57 AMPS @14V! ....to make 1 psi of boost.
Anybody tried this? or know someone who has? wonder what types of HP gains you would see from a 22re with this... 300 dollars for a 1psi boost....not bad or 1.7 for nearly 600. think a stock 22re or 3.slow would handle the psi boost without too much stress/engine wear?
03-01-2005, 03:14 AM
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NP gwhayduke...hehehe...But then again we can just run over the Civic and pick him out of our tires later.
Yeah, I might have written that one better guys. Yep the Mustang was faster than the Civic. But the Civic can leave the 3VZE in the dirt. So if you're searching for cheap speed from the 3.0...save the money and go with a Civic.
But if ya happen to find a restorable '66 Mustang Fastback, let me know. I might be able to slide that one into my garage with short-circuiting my wife's radar.
Originally Posted by gwhayduke
Yeah, I might have written that one better guys. Yep the Mustang was faster than the Civic. But the Civic can leave the 3VZE in the dirt. So if you're searching for cheap speed from the 3.0...save the money and go with a Civic.
But if ya happen to find a restorable '66 Mustang Fastback, let me know. I might be able to slide that one into my garage with short-circuiting my wife's radar.
03-01-2005, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by retardedspleen
Anybody tried this? or know someone who has? wonder what types of HP gains you would see from a 22re with this... 300 dollars for a 1psi boost....not bad or 1.7 for nearly 600. think a stock 22re or 3.slow would handle the psi boost without too much stress/engine wear?
I don't think most have gone this route on the forum because the HP gain is not big enough.
You figure most superchargers, turbos are set to give 7-8 psi of boost and add 40-50% to the HP.
So given that, you might get 5-10 HP gain by using the 1 psi setup...not bad for $300
I think the 1.7 psi would be a waste because you are getting close to turbo kit territory for far less gain.
Also a turbo or S/C runs all the time, this kit is more like nitrous, on for just a few seconds.
Not sure if you watched the video but it is also VERY loud.
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/...eos/video3.mpg
You can even watch it build pressure faster than a leaf blower (which some have suggested does work):
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/...%20final_1.wmv
Some of the installs:
http://www.electricsupercharger.com/...examples.shtml
03-01-2005, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by retardedspleen
Anybody tried this? or know someone who has? wonder what types of HP gains you would see from a 22re with this... 300 dollars for a 1psi boost....not bad or 1.7 for nearly 600. think a stock 22re or 3.slow would handle the psi boost without too much stress/engine wear?
