Notices
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

Trans wont shift out of first with brights on

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-06-2016, 04:32 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
CrawlCo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Trans wont shift out of first with brights on

I know this sounds funny, but my 2000 auto trans 4runner won't shift when my brights are on. Let me start from the beginning. On Christmas I hopped into the 4runner and notice it wouldn't shift. It was a cold day (10 deg) so I drove it for 3 miles in the thought that it might warm up and shift. It did not. I got home and scanned it. It threw a p1780 neutral safety switch code. I replaced the switch and it still didn't fix it. Then I took it to ammco. They looked at it and said the transmission was good and it's a " electrical gremlin" and weren't qualified to fix it. Word on the street is that it could be the cluster. Has anyone ever seen this before?

More of what I have noticed:
* if I clear the code and drive it without the headlights on, the code does NOT come back on and drives fine
*drives good most of the time with the headlights on.
*the second you turn the brights on, it drops to first! I turn the lights off and back on, it shifts normal.

Thanks for reading!
Old 01-07-2016, 12:13 PM
  #2  
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
vasinvictor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: North Central, AR
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Now that's truly one of the weirder things I've heard of. Um...
Old 01-07-2016, 12:25 PM
  #3  
EKJ
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
EKJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Subscribed.
Old 01-07-2016, 01:42 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
Jomoka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: St. Louis MO
Posts: 693
Received 121 Likes on 78 Posts
That just sounds painful to figure out.

Bad grounds? Back feeding current? Loose connection/low voltage somewhere?

At least you've gotten the first half of the battle completed, figuring out precisely how to trigger the problem.
Old 01-07-2016, 04:10 PM
  #5  
Contributing Member
 
Marc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Posts: 1,241
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
I'm just guessing here.

Do you have a remote starter or alarm?
Anything else aftermarket?

If you unplug the headlights does it still fail if you activate the high beam switch?
Old 01-09-2016, 07:54 AM
  #6  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
CrawlCo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Marc
I'm just guessing here.

Do you have a remote starter or alarm?
Anything else aftermarket?

If you unplug the headlights does it still fail if you activate the high beam switch?
That's a good question. No I don't. All of the Electrical on the truck is bone stock. That's a good idea to unplug the lights and see what happens. I'll pull some fuses and see it affects anything. Today is the first day I can drive it during daylight hours. It's dark on the way to and from work. Stupid winter.
Old 01-09-2016, 10:55 AM
  #7  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
wyoming9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: I live in New Tripoli Pa out in the woods
Posts: 13,381
Received 99 Likes on 86 Posts
Red face

Funny that a supposed High End Trans shop was clueless.

Are you having any charging system faults?

I am not a Auto trans person and have no idea how to drive one!!

Is there a fail safe if voltage drops to low that allows you to get the vehicle off the road.

Just like the ECM I would venture the Trans computer is effected by low voltage.

Interesting problem .
Old 01-12-2016, 04:01 PM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
CrawlCo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bump :-)
Old 01-13-2016, 07:02 AM
  #9  
Contributing Member
 
Marc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
Posts: 1,241
Received 13 Likes on 13 Posts
Ok, you bumped it, but did you try anything?
Old 01-13-2016, 08:19 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
RAD4Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 7,080
Received 663 Likes on 455 Posts
Originally Posted by CrawlCo
...*the second you turn the brights on, it drops to first! ...
Drops to first without to having to touch shifter?
When you say it does not shift, do you mean the shifter gets stuck, OR you're able to move the shifter, yet the transmission stays in last gear?

You replaced the neutral safety switch but did you check connections/power/ground TO and FROM the switch are good?

Last edited by RAD4Runner; 01-14-2016 at 11:21 AM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
NapoleonDy2nite
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
24
03-24-2016 10:04 PM
Keithstoyota
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
4
10-24-2015 12:33 PM
salyer63
General Electrical & Lighting Related Topics
1
10-22-2015 04:27 PM
shisha1999
84-85 Trucks & 4Runners
4
10-21-2015 02:14 PM
Deeraholic
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
1
10-12-2015 08:58 AM



Quick Reply: Trans wont shift out of first with brights on



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:13 PM.