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Old 07-16-2003, 11:16 PM
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ok to run without manifold heat shield?

i've been working on fixing my exhaust leak for the past couple days. i pulled the heat shield cover off my 20R and i found i was missing 4 manifold bolts! i've took it all off and retapped all the holes since most were shot(needed to tap to m12 size because they were so bad)

anyhow, i took off the inner part of the sheild(that goes between the manifold and head) and it has a huge crack running along it. my question is, would it be ok to just remove this thing alltogether? i think it wouldn't be too much of a problem since people run a header without it sometimes. but i don't want to totally mess anything up right now.

is it alright if i leave this flimsy metal thing off, or am i going to have to pick through the junkyard for a less damaged one?
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The heat shield is designed to keep the rubber hoses and wiring insulation free from extreme temperatures. If thats a risk your willing to take, by all means remove it.

I dont see it cuasing that much trouble over a short period. But I wouldnt plan on leaving it that way if I was planning on keeping the vehicle for an extended period of time.
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Melting the plug wires is not a risk i'd take.
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Sorry for going offtopic on the thread but if you don't mind Jx what is this get out of jail free switch?
Back to the actual topic, does a place like downey or pacesetter who makes aftermarket headers for our truck tell us to use the heat shield with their header? I'm not trying to be a smart @#$, I just haven't installed one so I don't know.

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Old 07-17-2003, 01:32 PM
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good luck passing smog inspection if it applies in your state.

it is required in california including the heat riser aluminum tube going to the air intake tube
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I don't think your 22r has the O2 sensor, but with the 22re the wires to the O2 sensor will melt withour the heat shield (personal experience)
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well, thanks for the input, i'm gonna just try and reuse the old one. right now my problem is getting the manifold on to the studs. i may have to drill the holes even bigger since the studs are a tad off kilter it seems. i'd personally rather rebuild an engine than mess with this crap

btw, my engine has absolutely no emissions on it. i counted about 3 vacuum hoses, the air holes in the manifold have been welded shut, and theres no smog pump/charcoal canister/etc
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i have a 1980 toyota 4x4 with a 20r. only 1 year difference.

it has about a bazillion vacume hoses, smog pump, egr, all kinds of vacume modulator thingies.....

i doubt you rig came stock with no smog stuff, no vacume lines, or welded intakes.

good luck tracing the vacume lines and installing them if you have a smog test.

i had only two lines hooked up wrong, they were inverted (from the bazillion that are under the hood) and because of that i initially failed the smog test, goo luck not having any of that stuff.
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no smog tests where i live. it's kind of nice having such a simple motor. ive looked at the original vacuum diagram though. pretty scary stuff.

just wish the guy wasn't such an idiot when it came to exhaust
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no smog test?!?!

you suck!

im jeaslous:cry:
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