slammdrider

i have an 84 toyota pickup xtra cab with a 2.4 22re efi motor and want to do an engine swap. what is the best motor that i can swap in that doesnt require alot of money or time and i want speed.

toy283

If you want speed, go SBC. Cheap to buy, cheap to upgrade, relatively cheap to swap in. Probably want to upgrade the rear axle if you go too much power/torque though. If you do your research, you can put in 400+ hp for less than $1000.

slammdrider

i have a question whats an sbc

MTL_4runner

SBC = Small Block Chevy

toy283

Small block Chevrolet in your favorite size: 262, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 400 and of course 350in³.

amusement

You go to be kidding me about a small block 400.

The swap will depend on what tranmission you have. Some transmission are weaker than others. Start with a 4.3 V6 or a 3.8 Chev carbed engines. Both have ok power and you can build them up as you go. Like with supercharger or 600 cfm 4-bbl carb.

Yah, you can wedge a small block. But, you won't much room without some minor modifications including a V8 radiator. If you get a V8 make sure it's a four bolt. Not some wimpy 2 bolt. And get a oil pan that has a baffle and a crank shield. Baffle helps keep oil around the inlet to the pump. A shield keeps the oil from foaming from the crank shaft.

How about rebuilding the 22R and adding NOS. he he he he

lunatic14r

lets see no money no time but want speed???? jack up the bed and drive a new truck under it

slammdrider

the trucks an 84 toyota 2wd automatic that efi and how hard is it to put in a 350 and does it have to be a certian 350 engine to fit and if you know of any sites that have the engine for cheap please tell me

toy283

Since it's 2wd it becomes cheaper. Pick up a boneyard engine for a couple hundred or watch the classifieds, a TH350 for another hundred. A Summit aluminum core rad for $200 and fab up some motor mounts. Wouldn't hurt to put in a 1" body lift but it isn't essential. As far as a 400 is concerned, it isn't my favorite engine by any means but it fits no more difficultly than a 305 or 350 (or my 283). They are exactly the same size on the outside. In a '84-'88 body a small block fits quite easily.

slammdrider

how long did it take you to get the motor to fit and is it easy to rewire everything and how hard is it to fab the motor mounts for it

CTB

When you say 4-bolt or 2-bolt, what exactly are you referring to? I thought it had something to do with the amount of bolts that held in the crankshaft bearings, but I could be completely wrong. Anyway, just curious...

Stump1883

7MGE, or 7MGTE, stay with the Toyota quality stuff . All you need is some motor mounts from a 5MGE and a few other things, like exhaust and wiring harnessess. The 7M's bolt right up to the W56 trannies. I'm not sure if the 2WD 84's run those though, if they do it couldnt' be any easier than those 2 engines. Plus it is a more common swap, wrtie-ups, tech, and ppl. to help you with it are abundant.

amusement

It's the number of bolts that hold the crank bearing cap to the block.
The more the better. Some series of 350 are better than others. Because of the offset angle the bolts were tapped into the block. And some 350 are siamesed and some are non-siamesed. siamesed means you can bore them up to .060 over because there's no coolant channel between the sleeves.

Also, the center two exhaust vavles on both heads can get very hot. There's a mod to drill a .016 channel to run coolant around them to cool them down.

All this info and more can be found in the Chevrolet Power Book. I highly suggest you read it before making the jump of faith into the V8 world. It will save you lots of $$$$.

toy283

It is not a more common swap. There are many more small-block powered Toyotas that Supra-powered. The first one was done only within the last 6 or seven years, my small-block has been in for twelve now. It is however a very common swap being done today.

Also, a Supr engine will not bolt up to a W or G series transmission. It will bolt up to a R series, R150F being the easiest.

Then there was the cheap factor he mentioned. I bet that dollar-for-dollar I can get more hp from a 350 than most people can get from a 7MGTE. While the Supra engine is a good engine, it doesn't heave near the hop-up parts support of a small-bloch Chev. Not even close.

amusement

And the 4.3 90 degree V6 has many parts that are shared in later 350 V8. Pistons, crank bearings, valves, and so on. Plus, just like the 350, the 4.3 are less expensive and good quality parts less than Toy 6 cylinder parts.

22Ryota

I've been considering putting a 3SGTE Celica engine into my truck. Can get them for around $1500 from japan.

kyle_22r

i'd just upgrade the 22R if it's a 2wd truck. it's got ample torque to get that flying. believe me, i've owned one.

put a manual transmission in it, maybe lower diff gears(i think they're 3.83 or 3.90 stock in most 2wds, though you probably have 4.10 or 4.30 since you have an auto). 4.38 out of a '79-80 4x4 would send you back in your seat. limited slip would be a great addition, can be had cheaply out of a late 80s supra

as for the engine, you could always rebuild it. bore it over, put in a more aggressive cam, a good header, and a weber 38 or dual sidedrafts. these little trucks will scream with the right mods

slammdrider

anyone know of any cold air intakes for 84 toyota with a EFI 22re and its a pickup to

muskie

the difference in 2 bolt and 4 bolt strength under 500 hp is narrow at best. I'm sure toy283 can attest to that as his blown 283 is a 2 bolt unit in stock trim as is most 400 small blocks. I have owned a 400 with 550 horse with a 2 bolt and never had a problem. I have had more problems with the 4.3 burning valves up. I agree for older toys a chevy swap is probably the easiest.

toy283

FWIW, mine isn't a 2-bolt main anymore. I upgraded when I rebuilt the thing years ago. Unnecessary but I tend to overbuild, call it a disease