Notices
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

hey guys

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-19-2003, 10:17 AM
  #1  
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
 
metal22lica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Bradenton, Florida
Posts: 992
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hey guys

hmm..i just finished checking out the Gear Page and i have G294 which is a 8.0" gear with 4.10 ratio and a 4 Pinion, Open Diff. so then i was checking at the bottom where it said that 4.10 ratio should be used with 225/70R-15 tires, but i have 31's on. so i was wondering if this would affect my speedo and gas milage? something effects my speedo b/c when i drive my moms car to school its 110 miles there and back, and when i drive the 4R its only 100. thanks guys.
Old 02-19-2003, 12:46 PM
  #2  
Banned
 
jx94148's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 2,617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
225/70R/15s are 28" 10% smaller than 31s. Your spedo and odometer are 10% off. When it says 70 you are really going 77.
Old 02-19-2003, 02:35 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
Cebby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 11,199
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Huh?

I might be missing something here, but I don't think the axle gearing has anything to do with the speedo inaccuracies. The speedo gear/adjustment is for the diameter of the tires.
Old 02-19-2003, 02:42 PM
  #4  
Away
 
Dr. Zhivago's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 1,588
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cebby, the Axle Ratio has everything to do with Speedo/Odometer inaccuracies. Actually, it's a matter of the Final Drive Ratio including tire diameters. But below is a simple explanation of why it matters.

If the Axle is making more (or less) turns per mile than when it left the factory, then the Driveshaft and subsequently the Transmission is making more turns per mile and therefore the Speedometer Gear and/or the VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) is sending the wrong information to the Odo/Speedo.

The leg bone's connected to the knee bone, the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone, the thigh bone's connected to the hip bone, etc. etc. etc.

Hope this helps.
Dr. Z
Old 02-19-2003, 02:52 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
Cebby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 11,199
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I guess I never understood it that way. So, you are saying that if I have two identical vehicles with the same size tires and same speedo gear, that have different axle gearing, that I will get different speeds at the speedo?:confused:
Old 02-19-2003, 02:56 PM
  #6  
Away
 
Dr. Zhivago's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 1,588
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Cebby
I guess I never understood it that way. So, you are saying that if I have two identical vehicles with the same size tires and same speedo gear, that have different axle gearing, that I will get different speeds at the speedo?:confused:
Exactly. It's because the Ratio of "Turns Per Mile" of the Axle (and subsequent parts) will be different between the two vehicles. The transmissions won't be turning the same speed, which is what the Speedo Gear (and VSS) is driven by.

Hope this helps.
Dr. Z
Old 02-19-2003, 03:07 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
Cebby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 11,199
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thanks

This is quite timely, considering I've been having a few issues with my speed sensor lately.

Consider me enlightened...
Old 02-19-2003, 03:18 PM
  #8  
Banned
 
jx94148's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 2,617
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The spedometer connects to the transmition so any changes to diff ratios or tire size throw the spedo and odometer off unless you do the math and get the right combination.
Old 02-19-2003, 03:32 PM
  #9  
Contributing Member
Thread Starter
 
metal22lica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Bradenton, Florida
Posts: 992
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so then i see where the 10% thing comes into effect with the 100/110 mile thing. hmm..so when im on the highway going 80 mph..im really going 88...now wonder i fly by everyone. so then if i have to fill up every 150 miles...the odo should really say 165?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
pyramid
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
10
07-30-2015 10:05 AM
1996Taco
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
3
07-20-2015 12:02 AM
scottyg486
Offroad Tech
3
07-19-2015 05:34 PM
Iceman4193
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
3
07-15-2015 04:48 PM
voiddweller
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
4
07-15-2015 03:56 PM



Quick Reply: hey guys



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:43 AM.