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Old 04-12-2006, 04:39 PM
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Grinding from 5th to 4th ONLY

I have the 2.7L, and my problem seems to be exactly that. It will shift perfectly from 3rd to 4th, but if you put it in 5th, at any speed, and downshift to 4th, it grinds a little bit before engaging the gear. Yes, I am mashing the clutch down to the floor, and there is nothing behind the pedal arm to keep the pedal from fully burying.

Anyone have any idea at all?
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have you adjusted the cable for the clutch
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Originally Posted by Elton
have you adjusted the cable for the clutch
Hydraulic clutches don't have cables.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:58 PM
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There is a pedal adjustment on them....

Ohter than that sounds like the syncros are going in the tranny... how many miles on the truck??
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only 65,000... do you think the syncros might fail at this young of an age??
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Originally Posted by FingerMan20
only 65,000... do you think the syncros might fail at this young of an age??
Wouldn't you think the synchros in the lower gears would go out first? 5-4 is done a lot less than 1-2 or 2-3. My truck has over 200K miles and has no gnashing of the gears like you describe.
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Check the plastic bushing at the shifter base. They have been known to crack and break over time, causing this exact problem. My friend has a 99 2.7 and he had a similar problem. It was a $20 fix.
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
Check the plastic bushing at the shifter base. They have been known to crack and break over time, causing this exact problem. My friend has a 99 2.7 and he had a similar problem. It was a $20 fix.
shifter seat? if so, marlin sells them...

http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/tra...rans_parts.htm
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Change your gear oil to Redline Synthetic.... It can make an amazing difference in how the tranny shifts.
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Originally Posted by montypower
Change your gear oil to Redline Synthetic.... It can make an amazing difference in how the tranny shifts.
While I agree that some people have had good luck (better shift feel) with changing gear oil, this will simply mask an underlying problem.

I suggest he fixes the problem first, then switches gear oil.

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Originally Posted by garrett1478
shifter seat? if so, marlin sells them...

http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/tra...rans_parts.htm
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Bob did a writeup on that one too:
http://4runners.org/articles/shift/
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may i suggest syncromesh fluid...it does wonders!
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Garrett, 96Runner, thank you. I will look into this immediately.

As for the gear oil, is it that important? And what would synchromesh fluid do for me?
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Again, don't worry about the fluid type right now. You have a mechanical issue, not a fluid problem.
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I second changing out the bushings... I had a bushing go out on my 82's stick, and it did something very similar to what you're describing. Fixed the bushing, fixed the problem...
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sweet... i guess i should invest $10 in the marlin heavy duty ones and never worry about it again. if something breaks, you never replace, you always UPGRADE. an old indian taught me that.
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hmmm which one on the marlin site would i order?

the one for w56a/b, or 'all other 4wd applications'?
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i ordered the one for all other 4wd applications, because if i read right, i have the w59 tranny. When the part comes in, my problem will cease.

Thanks all
Donny

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