livelarg

I was wondering if anyone has considered swapping in a mercede diesel in thier 4runner. I would like to have a diesel in my 88' for the better milage, and more torque. Plus it would be cool. Mercedes diesels are strong long lasting motors, and would prolly get me 10 more MPG out of my truck.
What you all think?
Anyone know what the stock Hp & torque ratings for the 3vze are? just looking on what engine I wold have to get to have more power.

Thanks

Glenn

There's a guy named Chris that posts on different boards by the name of 4x4 wanderer. I'm not sure he is a member of this board, but I know he is or was one of the Off-road.com's BBS. He lives in Canada and is some kind of an engineer. He is pretty smart. Anyway, he repowered his 4x4 with a Mercedes diesel. You might do a Google and see if you can find him.

toy283

Shouldn't really be too hard if you're a decent fabricator. You'd need to fab up your own tranny adapter (not really that hard) and motor mounts (again, not really that hard). Wiring and misc BS that comes with any engine swap are really all that's left and those usually work themselves out fairly well too.

SoCal4Running

I've considered using a 4cyl John Deer or Cat out of the forklifts I drive all day long. They look about the same size as a 22re and there so reliable its not even funny. Would be alittle required but shouldnt be too complicated.

kyle_22r

don't those only have like, 25 horsepower?

i know the mercedes swap is a pretty solid engine, and they can be found with a 4 speed tranny(just use a divorced t-case), but on car-part.com a 240d seems about as hard to find as a 2L. i really wish we had some better swap options, all diesels are either too small or too big. the only ones that could go in place of a 22R easily all haven't been used in the use for probably around 20 years at least(isuzu, nissan, toyota, etc). the sami guys have it easier, they can just use a vw tdi engine!

livelarg

I was looking a the diesel from a 300 D. Not as hard to find, they are a v6, but they are non-turbo. They make 135hp and 175 ft/lb of torque stock, with a chip upgrade you can add 15 hp and 30 ft/lb of torque.
I would like to find a turbo diesel, but it would be hard to find and very pricey.
I looked on some of the sites for that 4x4 wanderer guy, but no luck.

toy283

300D's aren't a V6 but an I-6 (or is it the 300TD's I'm thinking of?). You may run into fit issues pertaining to length. Be sure to bring your measuring tape before you buy.

livelarg

your right, it is an inline 6. thats what I meant, but I figure if people can cram in a supra engine, why not this?

As I was searching google for more info on a mercedes swap, I found this site. you guys might like it. http://www.toyotadieselmadness.com/

Lucky

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Why not swap in a Toyota 3.0 TD (1KZTE) engine. Good solid engine, lasts for ever (generally) relatively good mileage and very easy to work on - except the Turbo which is way down low on the side.

Main issue would be sourcing and wiring up an ECU as apart from that you shoul dbe able to source a good transmission for it (R151) which will bolt up straight to the transfer case.

Loads of Torque and power.

Cheers

toy283

Unfortunately, that is a rather huge issue here. No 1KZTE's were ever imported into North America. If you're able to find one the cost of importation would make this an uneconomical swap for sure.

Lucky

Good Point, the shipping on something as heavy as that would be horrendous. Better to source a complete truck from Japan (Damaged unrepairable) and ship it in.

Cheers

JD

Shipping is not that bad although from Oz our dollar has increased recently but shipping an engine to the US east coast would be in the vicinity of $US300.

But the real cost would be the engine as they are not cheap and wiring up the ECU would be a PITA. Probably easier to go for a NA 5L as per last pics in this link Diesels

kyle_22r

i'm pretty sure most 300Ds were i-5s. from what i hear, the i6 version of the motor wasn't as good. and aren't they mechanically injected, so there wouldn't be a chip involved?

4what

What about the 2.7L with the 5 speed auto found in the mercedes/dodge sprinter vans:

Specs from the dodge website:

2.7-liter I5 Mercedes-Benz Turbo Diesel engine produces 154 horsepower at 3,800 RPM and 243 pounds-feet of torque from 1,600 to 2,400 RPM.

Sprinter

Highland Runner

Thanks for the Toyota Diesel Madnness site. Much better than the Diesel SR5 site I used to visit. There was a discussion on the SR5 site a while back about putting the VW Diesel engine into a Toyota. If I remember there was a company in NC that made an adapter for older Toys. There was also talk of using a bell housing from a Chrysler product that fit both the VW engine and newer Toyota transmissions.

4runner4ever

I used a Nissan 2.8 TD L6 in my Hilux once. It's about the same lenght as my 7M-GE, so my guess is a L6 Mercedes will probably fit lenght wise.
I would never put in a forklift or CAT or similar engine. You'll find the engine undrivable: low on horsepower, small powerband etc. Most can't be turbo'd since most don't have oil skirts for cooling the pistons. You'll be stuck with a swap that's only good for hauling stuff around your backyard.

My .02c: get that l5 mercedes engine!

livelarg

That would be the perfect engine for my truck, the only problem would be that it is a new vehicle, and not in the U.S. so getting an engine would be hard and costly.
But other thatn that, it would be perfect! LOL

livelarg

I am still in the studying part of all of this. I will keep any info posted here.

934rnr

You can find the 2.8 I-6 diesel nissans around they came in old 82 maxima's. I have seen a few on ebay lately for cheap.

toy283

Hmmm, good point. Been a while since I've actually seen one so it may well be a 5. That's good because it becomes that much easier to fit in a Toyota engine bay.