Wider tires on 2010 Limited?
02-20-2010, 04:07 PM
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I saw photos of a 2010 4Runner with stock 20x7 rims with 275-55-20 tires. The 275's do look awesome! The tire puling tight doesn't look too bad. I've looked at a bunch of tires today and not all tires pull in that well. I'd not take unknown possible safety risks pulled in this tight so I'd choose a manufacture that approves the 7" rim since they are available for all season, summer and snow treads. Not sure about A/T treads for 7".
Sweet!
Sweet!
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02-22-2010, 03:34 PM
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I finally made up my mind. I'd get them both!
Summer / street
255-55-20 with 1.25" spacers. For best handling on pavement. (ordered spacers today)
Winter or dirt roads
275-55-20 with no spacers.
I'll probably never go back to factory 245-60-20's.
Summer / street
255-55-20 with 1.25" spacers. For best handling on pavement. (ordered spacers today)
Winter or dirt roads
275-55-20 with no spacers.
I'll probably never go back to factory 245-60-20's.
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02-24-2010, 11:01 AM
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I called several tire shops and all stated that 275-55-20 will not fit properly on 20x7 rims. The more I’m thinking about it, the more I incline towards just replacing oem with aftermarket wheels in 17/18 inch. Any problems you might think of going with that option?
02-24-2010, 05:30 PM
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Continental and General brands 275-55-20's should perform correctly on 7" rims. Look online at their specs.
Changing rim diameters won't be a problem *IF* the rim you get is Hub-Centric for Toyota specific and a good quality brand. Compare the rim offset to factory offset or you might have rubbing.
After market rims should work fine! Then you can get 8" or 8.5 width ect... Just make sure they fit tight on the hub when test fitting with out bolts. Not sure how much hub-centric Toyota specific aftermarket rims cost?
Changing rim diameters won't be a problem *IF* the rim you get is Hub-Centric for Toyota specific and a good quality brand. Compare the rim offset to factory offset or you might have rubbing.
After market rims should work fine! Then you can get 8" or 8.5 width ect... Just make sure they fit tight on the hub when test fitting with out bolts. Not sure how much hub-centric Toyota specific aftermarket rims cost?
02-24-2010, 07:53 PM
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I got a quote for some XD and Moto rims in 17x8 and 18x9. Looks like good quality product... The set (rims and tires) would cost about $2200 (that’s in CDN) all in, installed and balanced. The total diameter would be less than 32 inches so it should work fine… I don’t know much about offset values, but I assume that a good tire shop would know what they are doing… As a comparison, for SR5 oem set, the dealer quoted close to $3k.
Is it necessary for the rims to be hubcentric? It looks like most aftermarket wheels are not…
Is it necessary for the rims to be hubcentric? It looks like most aftermarket wheels are not…
Continental and General brands 275-55-20's should perform correctly on 7" rims. Look online at their specs.
Changing rim diameters won't be a problem *IF* the rim you get is Hub-Centric for Toyota specific and a good quality brand. Compare the rim offset to factory offset or you might have rubbing.
After market rims should work fine! Then you can get 8" or 8.5 width ect... Just make sure they fit tight on the hub when test fitting with out bolts. Not sure how much hub-centric Toyota specific aftermarket rims cost?
Changing rim diameters won't be a problem *IF* the rim you get is Hub-Centric for Toyota specific and a good quality brand. Compare the rim offset to factory offset or you might have rubbing.
After market rims should work fine! Then you can get 8" or 8.5 width ect... Just make sure they fit tight on the hub when test fitting with out bolts. Not sure how much hub-centric Toyota specific aftermarket rims cost?
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02-24-2010, 09:33 PM
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I got a quote for some XD and Moto rims in 17x8 and 18x9. Looks like good quality product... The set (rims and tires) would cost about $2200 (that’s in CDN) all in, installed and balanced. The total diameter would be less than 32 inches so it should work fine… I don’t know much about offset values, but I assume that a good tire shop would know what they are doing… As a comparison, for SR5 oem set, the dealer quoted close to $3k.
Is it necessary for the rims to be hubcentric? It looks like most aftermarket wheels are not…
Is it necessary for the rims to be hubcentric? It looks like most aftermarket wheels are not…
Just to give you an ideal range of tire width for rim width. I don't think you can go larger than tires listed below with out rubbing on a stock suspension setup. Maybe if you mod the fender to fit you can go larger, but I don't think you're trying to go larger.
Ideal tire and rim setups
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275-75-17 32.2" ... 17x8" rim (Fits factory 17" rim)
285-65-17 31.6" ... 17x8" rim but might be hard to find.
285-70-17 32.7" ... 17x8" rim
305-65-17 32.7" ... 17x9" rim
265-70-18 32.6" ... 18x8 rim
275-60-18 31.0" ... 18x8 or 18x9 rim
275-65-18 32.1" ... 18x8 or 18x9 rim
285-60-18 31.5" ... 18x9 rim
305-60-18 32.6 ... 18x9 rim
up to a 310mm with a 9" rim in the diameter range of 32"
285-60-18 sounds nice.
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From earlier post
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16x7 wheel
-.0 265/75/16 31.7
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17x7" wheel
-.0 265/70/17 31.7 FACTORY
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20x7" wheel
-.0 245/60/20 31.6 FACTORY
-.5 255/55/20 31.1
-.1 265/55/20 31.5 (Can't find this size)
+.3 275/55/20 31.9 (Some are spec rated to fit the factory 20x7 rim properly)
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02-25-2010, 09:33 AM
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There should be 1" room for push offset outward using a stock tire size. When you go with wider or taller tires the offset becomes the most important part of the rim if you don't want rubbing with a stock setup. The 275-55-20 tire has been test fit with no problems with room to spare. I'm pretty sure a 285mm tire will fit with an offset close to stock. Might even fit a 295mm if you really wanted to if the diameter was close to stock.
The offset will change from stock when you change rim width. So if you get a 7" rim the offset can be close to stock. But with an 8" wide rim the offset will be different to compensate for the extra 1" rim width so the tire still sits in the same location installed to the hub.
The offset is simply how far the tire will be pushed out or pulled in. If you get a wider rim, you need to reduce the offset from factory in some cases to work with a stock setup. But then you're limited to by the support arm above the tire.
For the 275.55.20 tire using an 8" rim I'd match the offset of factory. This will push the tire out 1/2" closer to the fender giving it a wider stance. They would have to test fit it. Might rub by 3/16" when turning. But you get the idea. Then you can heat up the fender and press a plate against it to flatten the ridges to prevent rubbing if it's a slight rub. If you don't want to worry about the fender you can change the offset so the wheel is pulled in more and it won't rub. I personally try to push the tires as close to the outer fender as I can. But the closer you push, limits wider tires later.
If it's a good rim shop they'll offer to test fit everything before you buy it. They can mount a few different tire sizes on different rims to experiment. Once you fit the tire size you want on a rim, you'll know what offset will fit after that just by doing math.
Difference between 16-17-18-20 rims depends on what you will do with your vehicle. Low profile for street handling, tall profile for rocky off roads so you can drop tire pressure and or not damage the rim.
You can always buy used steel rims from a Tacoma vehicle I think in 16x7.5" for hard core off roading and swop wheels when you hit the trails. Probably pick them up really cheap.
The offset will change from stock when you change rim width. So if you get a 7" rim the offset can be close to stock. But with an 8" wide rim the offset will be different to compensate for the extra 1" rim width so the tire still sits in the same location installed to the hub.
The offset is simply how far the tire will be pushed out or pulled in. If you get a wider rim, you need to reduce the offset from factory in some cases to work with a stock setup. But then you're limited to by the support arm above the tire.
For the 275.55.20 tire using an 8" rim I'd match the offset of factory. This will push the tire out 1/2" closer to the fender giving it a wider stance. They would have to test fit it. Might rub by 3/16" when turning. But you get the idea. Then you can heat up the fender and press a plate against it to flatten the ridges to prevent rubbing if it's a slight rub. If you don't want to worry about the fender you can change the offset so the wheel is pulled in more and it won't rub. I personally try to push the tires as close to the outer fender as I can. But the closer you push, limits wider tires later.
If it's a good rim shop they'll offer to test fit everything before you buy it. They can mount a few different tire sizes on different rims to experiment. Once you fit the tire size you want on a rim, you'll know what offset will fit after that just by doing math.
Difference between 16-17-18-20 rims depends on what you will do with your vehicle. Low profile for street handling, tall profile for rocky off roads so you can drop tire pressure and or not damage the rim.
You can always buy used steel rims from a Tacoma vehicle I think in 16x7.5" for hard core off roading and swop wheels when you hit the trails. Probably pick them up really cheap.
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02-25-2010, 05:27 PM
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Thank you, LiteBrite! Excellent info!
There should be 1" room for push offset outward using a stock tire size. When you go with wider or taller tires the offset becomes the most important part of the rim if you don't want rubbing with a stock setup. The 275-55-20 tire has been test fit with no problems with room to spare. I'm pretty sure a 285mm tire will fit with an offset close to stock. Might even fit a 295mm if you really wanted to if the diameter was close to stock.
The offset will change from stock when you change rim width. So if you get a 7" rim the offset can be close to stock. But with an 8" wide rim the offset will be different to compensate for the extra 1" rim width so the tire still sits in the same location installed to the hub.
The offset is simply how far the tire will be pushed out or pulled in. If you get a wider rim, you need to reduce the offset from factory in some cases to work with a stock setup. But then you're limited to by the support arm above the tire.
For the 275.55.20 tire using an 8" rim I'd match the offset of factory. This will push the tire out 1/2" closer to the fender giving it a wider stance. They would have to test fit it. Might rub by 3/16" when turning. But you get the idea. Then you can heat up the fender and press a plate against it to flatten the ridges to prevent rubbing if it's a slight rub. If you don't want to worry about the fender you can change the offset so the wheel is pulled in more and it won't rub. I personally try to push the tires as close to the outer fender as I can. But the closer you push, limits wider tires later.
If it's a good rim shop they'll offer to test fit everything before you buy it. They can mount a few different tire sizes on different rims to experiment. Once you fit the tire size you want on a rim, you'll know what offset will fit after that just by doing math.
Difference between 16-17-18-20 rims depends on what you will do with your vehicle. Low profile for street handling, tall profile for rocky off roads so you can drop tire pressure and or not damage the rim.
You can always buy used steel rims from a Tacoma vehicle I think in 16x7.5" for hard core off roading and swop wheels when you hit the trails. Probably pick them up really cheap.
The offset will change from stock when you change rim width. So if you get a 7" rim the offset can be close to stock. But with an 8" wide rim the offset will be different to compensate for the extra 1" rim width so the tire still sits in the same location installed to the hub.
The offset is simply how far the tire will be pushed out or pulled in. If you get a wider rim, you need to reduce the offset from factory in some cases to work with a stock setup. But then you're limited to by the support arm above the tire.
For the 275.55.20 tire using an 8" rim I'd match the offset of factory. This will push the tire out 1/2" closer to the fender giving it a wider stance. They would have to test fit it. Might rub by 3/16" when turning. But you get the idea. Then you can heat up the fender and press a plate against it to flatten the ridges to prevent rubbing if it's a slight rub. If you don't want to worry about the fender you can change the offset so the wheel is pulled in more and it won't rub. I personally try to push the tires as close to the outer fender as I can. But the closer you push, limits wider tires later.
If it's a good rim shop they'll offer to test fit everything before you buy it. They can mount a few different tire sizes on different rims to experiment. Once you fit the tire size you want on a rim, you'll know what offset will fit after that just by doing math.
Difference between 16-17-18-20 rims depends on what you will do with your vehicle. Low profile for street handling, tall profile for rocky off roads so you can drop tire pressure and or not damage the rim.
You can always buy used steel rims from a Tacoma vehicle I think in 16x7.5" for hard core off roading and swop wheels when you hit the trails. Probably pick them up really cheap.
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03-18-2010, 08:08 PM
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Wider tires
Just took the plunge and mounted 275/55-20 tires on my 20x7 inch wheels. I installed the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza tires inflated to 32 psi. Firestone mounted these without even flinching over the fact that the tires suggested a wheel width of at least 7.5 inches.
Seems to handle just fine. All of the clearances are fine, as well. Love the look over the narrow oem tires. Couldn't handle any longer the look of such a large vehicle on such narrow tires.
Wish toyota would have put a wider wheel on in the 1st place in anticipation of plus sizing.
Seems to handle just fine. All of the clearances are fine, as well. Love the look over the narrow oem tires. Couldn't handle any longer the look of such a large vehicle on such narrow tires.
Wish toyota would have put a wider wheel on in the 1st place in anticipation of plus sizing.
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03-22-2010, 11:12 AM
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the limited rims are only 7 inches wide, thus limiting how big tire you can put. unfortunately there is no 265/60/20 tire yet, but ive seen some tire manufacters say MIN rim width is 7inches for the 275 tire.
Another option is using the 18x 7.5 inch 6 spoke rim from the 4th generation and putting 275/65/18 tires on. From ive read, this will not cause rubbing issues. This will be my setup..here is the gorgeous rim
Another option is using the 18x 7.5 inch 6 spoke rim from the 4th generation and putting 275/65/18 tires on. From ive read, this will not cause rubbing issues. This will be my setup..here is the gorgeous rim
03-22-2010, 11:17 AM
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I took the plunge and ordered 275/70/17 BFG Ats and 17" x 8" rims (up 10mm on the tire and 1/2" on rim width from stock). Unfortunately my post is useless as I don't have them installed yet or pics. Once I do I will let you know.
Here's to hoping they fit without rubbing (for the time being).
Here's to hoping they fit without rubbing (for the time being).
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There should be 1" room for push offset outward using a stock tire size. When you go with wider or taller tires the offset becomes the most important part of the rim if you don't want rubbing with a stock setup. The 275-55-20 tire has been test fit with no problems with room to spare. I'm pretty sure a 285mm tire will fit with an offset close to stock. Might even fit a 295mm if you really wanted to if the diameter was close to stock.
The offset will change from stock when you change rim width. So if you get a 7" rim the offset can be close to stock. But with an 8" wide rim the offset will be different to compensate for the extra 1" rim width so the tire still sits in the same location installed to the hub.
The offset is simply how far the tire will be pushed out or pulled in. If you get a wider rim, you need to reduce the offset from factory in some cases to work with a stock setup. But then you're limited to by the support arm above the tire.
For the 275.55.20 tire using an 8" rim I'd match the offset of factory. This will push the tire out 1/2" closer to the fender giving it a wider stance. They would have to test fit it. Might rub by 3/16" when turning. But you get the idea. Then you can heat up the fender and press a plate against it to flatten the ridges to prevent rubbing if it's a slight rub. If you don't want to worry about the fender you can change the offset so the wheel is pulled in more and it won't rub. I personally try to push the tires as close to the outer fender as I can. But the closer you push, limits wider tires later.
If it's a good rim shop they'll offer to test fit everything before you buy it. They can mount a few different tire sizes on different rims to experiment. Once you fit the tire size you want on a rim, you'll know what offset will fit after that just by doing math.
Difference between 16-17-18-20 rims depends on what you will do with your vehicle. Low profile for street handling, tall profile for rocky off roads so you can drop tire pressure and or not damage the rim.
You can always buy used steel rims from a Tacoma vehicle I think in 16x7.5" for hard core off roading and swop wheels when you hit the trails. Probably pick them up really cheap.
The offset will change from stock when you change rim width. So if you get a 7" rim the offset can be close to stock. But with an 8" wide rim the offset will be different to compensate for the extra 1" rim width so the tire still sits in the same location installed to the hub.
The offset is simply how far the tire will be pushed out or pulled in. If you get a wider rim, you need to reduce the offset from factory in some cases to work with a stock setup. But then you're limited to by the support arm above the tire.
For the 275.55.20 tire using an 8" rim I'd match the offset of factory. This will push the tire out 1/2" closer to the fender giving it a wider stance. They would have to test fit it. Might rub by 3/16" when turning. But you get the idea. Then you can heat up the fender and press a plate against it to flatten the ridges to prevent rubbing if it's a slight rub. If you don't want to worry about the fender you can change the offset so the wheel is pulled in more and it won't rub. I personally try to push the tires as close to the outer fender as I can. But the closer you push, limits wider tires later.
If it's a good rim shop they'll offer to test fit everything before you buy it. They can mount a few different tire sizes on different rims to experiment. Once you fit the tire size you want on a rim, you'll know what offset will fit after that just by doing math.
Difference between 16-17-18-20 rims depends on what you will do with your vehicle. Low profile for street handling, tall profile for rocky off roads so you can drop tire pressure and or not damage the rim.
You can always buy used steel rims from a Tacoma vehicle I think in 16x7.5" for hard core off roading and swop wheels when you hit the trails. Probably pick them up really cheap.
acutally if you get a wider rim, you want a LOWER offset, not one that matches Oem, otherwise rim is pushed inward and rubbing occurs on inner control arms. For a 4 inch rim, you want one with a offset of 0 - (NEG)15 mm with a backspacing of about 4.5"
To Seatle, i am currently torn on that fact that the rims are too narrow for the 275/55 tire (7 vs 7.5"). I am going to call bridgestone and speak to them about this. Your tires dont look like they bulge out at all. Have you seen some of the 300's profile tires on the 8-9 inch wide rims? those really bulge out
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06-19-2010, 08:11 PM
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I wonder what the smallest wheel is that will fit on the new 4Runner, I'd like it if you could get a 15 or 16" wheel on there to get either a 33x9.5, 33x10.5r15, 255/85r16.
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