Toyota Carriers Suck!
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Toyota Carriers Suck!
So I had issues with my gear install...old news.
So, Protrux has been helping me get back on my feet. We can use my gears and locker, and have new bearings, but my carrier is worn to the point that the bearings were sloppy.
So we try another carrier in the shop, same issue. Theyt start looking for new carriers, everything has the same issue.
Talk to the gear shop. They had 10 carriers sent over from california minitrucks, all 10 had the same issue.
WTF?
Anyone know where to get a carrier in good shape for cheap? Do I HAVE to spend 450.00 and replace my new aussie locker with a full detroit softlocker?
I'm tired of spending money on things that have been upgraded.
So, Protrux has been helping me get back on my feet. We can use my gears and locker, and have new bearings, but my carrier is worn to the point that the bearings were sloppy.
So we try another carrier in the shop, same issue. Theyt start looking for new carriers, everything has the same issue.
Talk to the gear shop. They had 10 carriers sent over from california minitrucks, all 10 had the same issue.
WTF?
Anyone know where to get a carrier in good shape for cheap? Do I HAVE to spend 450.00 and replace my new aussie locker with a full detroit softlocker?
I'm tired of spending money on things that have been upgraded.
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Originally Posted by deathrunner
So I had issues with my gear install...old news.
So, Protrux has been helping me get back on my feet. We can use my gears and locker, and have new bearings, but my carrier is worn to the point that the bearings were sloppy.
So we try another carrier in the shop, same issue. Theyt start looking for new carriers, everything has the same issue.
Talk to the gear shop. They had 10 carriers sent over from california minitrucks, all 10 had the same issue.
WTF?
Anyone know where to get a carrier in good shape for cheap? Do I HAVE to spend 450.00 and replace my new aussie locker with a full detroit softlocker?
I'm tired of spending money on things that have been upgraded.
So, Protrux has been helping me get back on my feet. We can use my gears and locker, and have new bearings, but my carrier is worn to the point that the bearings were sloppy.
So we try another carrier in the shop, same issue. Theyt start looking for new carriers, everything has the same issue.
Talk to the gear shop. They had 10 carriers sent over from california minitrucks, all 10 had the same issue.
WTF?
Anyone know where to get a carrier in good shape for cheap? Do I HAVE to spend 450.00 and replace my new aussie locker with a full detroit softlocker?
I'm tired of spending money on things that have been upgraded.
I've NEVER, EVER seen or heard of this. Check w/ Zuk....
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Not the gears, but the bearings. The metal that the carrier is made of is soft and supposedly the bearings are supposed to be a press fit. These are supposedly prone to spinning bearings due to soft carrier material.
I had never heard of it or I would have just gotten a softlocker instead of the aussie locker.
I can attest to the looseness, the bearings will just slide ona nd off and you can see obvious signs of wear on the shafts that the bearings slip over.
I had never heard of it or I would have just gotten a softlocker instead of the aussie locker.
I can attest to the looseness, the bearings will just slide ona nd off and you can see obvious signs of wear on the shafts that the bearings slip over.
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Originally Posted by deathrunner
Not the gears, but the bearings. The metal that the carrier is made of is soft and supposedly the bearings are supposed to be a press fit. These are supposedly prone to spinning bearings due to soft carrier material.
I had never heard of it or I would have just gotten a softlocker instead of the aussie locker.
I can attest to the looseness, the bearings will just slide ona nd off and you can see obvious signs of wear on the shafts that the bearings slip over.
I had never heard of it or I would have just gotten a softlocker instead of the aussie locker.
I can attest to the looseness, the bearings will just slide ona nd off and you can see obvious signs of wear on the shafts that the bearings slip over.
What brand bearings? Possible you got the wrong ones?
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No they are correct bearings, they were installed by a reputable gear installer and were originally a snug fit. Now they are loose on teh same exact carrier and the current shop I go to is Toyota only, so they would know if they ahd the wrong bearings.
I wish it were that simple. I have seen a few of these carriers and it is obvious that they have had spun bearings.
Does anyone know if a V6 carrier will work witha 4 cyl gear set and aussie locker ina 4 cyl 3rd member?
Two of our Yotatech brethren have offered to supply me with thier old V6 3rds.
I wish it were that simple. I have seen a few of these carriers and it is obvious that they have had spun bearings.
Does anyone know if a V6 carrier will work witha 4 cyl gear set and aussie locker ina 4 cyl 3rd member?
Two of our Yotatech brethren have offered to supply me with thier old V6 3rds.
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Originally Posted by deathrunner
No they are correct bearings, they were installed by a reputable gear installer and were originally a snug fit. Now they are loose on teh same exact carrier and the current shop I go to is Toyota only, so they would know if they ahd the wrong bearings.
I wish it were that simple. I have seen a few of these carriers and it is obvious that they have had spun bearings.
Does anyone know if a V6 carrier will work witha 4 cyl gear set and aussie locker ina 4 cyl 3rd member?
Two of our Yotatech brethren have offered to supply me with thier old V6 3rds.
I wish it were that simple. I have seen a few of these carriers and it is obvious that they have had spun bearings.
Does anyone know if a V6 carrier will work witha 4 cyl gear set and aussie locker ina 4 cyl 3rd member?
Two of our Yotatech brethren have offered to supply me with thier old V6 3rds.
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ehhhh, if I can't use my locker then it is no good. Shoot, so V6 carriers are out.
It's looking like my only way to get a propper gear setup is to get a carrier style locker like the detroit.
I don't really have the money for it now, but unless there is another option?
It's looking like my only way to get a propper gear setup is to get a carrier style locker like the detroit.
I don't really have the money for it now, but unless there is another option?
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Originally Posted by deathrunner
ehhhh, if I can't use my locker then it is no good. Shoot, so V6 carriers are out.
It's looking like my only way to get a propper gear setup is to get a carrier style locker like the detroit.
I don't really have the money for it now, but unless there is another option?
It's looking like my only way to get a propper gear setup is to get a carrier style locker like the detroit.
I don't really have the money for it now, but unless there is another option?
take a semi blunt punch, and make evenly spaced dimples around where the bearing sits, this will raise the material, and buy you some time
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honestly, i would try another set of bearings. i have never come across this problem even after pressing bearings on and off several times.
try some locktite on the inside of the bearing
try some locktite on the inside of the bearing
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I just went and checked one of the carriers i have laying arround here, and it doesnt have the problem you speak of either. If you were closer i would offer you my 4 cyl carriers i have here for free, but your 2000 miles away.
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ARB lockers fit the bearing quite well. I own three of them. I have also blow up the R&P Kongs put in. I had to buy a brand new $550 e-locker carrier. Same deal, carrier was shot.
ARB's all the way. My 1981 truck will get two ARB's.
ARB's all the way. My 1981 truck will get two ARB's.
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Oh yeah, the guy who screwed my gears up at Kongs used to work at Protrucks. If you see some guy with black hair named Ellias, Tell he he is a moron and don't let him touch anything.
Here is the idiot. Don't let this man set your gears up.
http://www.sonoransteel.com/regear/0019.jpg
Bottom right corner.
Here is the idiot. Don't let this man set your gears up.
http://www.sonoransteel.com/regear/0019.jpg
Bottom right corner.
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deathrunner---I occasionally run into that problem so the quick fix(usually permanent) is to use a sleeve locking compound....runs $24 for a bottle of it like the one shown in the pic below. I don't know how well Red LocTite would work in this application. What I do is clean surfaces....clean my fingertip with a touch of starting fluid....apply 2 drops to the parts....smear around with my oil-free finger and assemble case in the carrier with bearings under tension while it dries overnight.
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Originally Posted by deathrunner
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Does anyone know if a V6 carrier will work witha 4 cyl gear set and aussie locker ina 4 cyl 3rd member?
Two of our Yotatech brethren have offered to supply me with thier old V6 3rds.
Does anyone know if a V6 carrier will work witha 4 cyl gear set and aussie locker ina 4 cyl 3rd member?
Two of our Yotatech brethren have offered to supply me with thier old V6 3rds.
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Oh yeah, the guy who screwed my gears up at Kongs used to work at Protrucks. If you see some guy with black hair named Ellias, Tell he he is a moron and don't let him touch anything.
Here is the idiot. Don't let this man set your gears up.
http://www.sonoransteel.com/regear/0019.jpg
Bottom right corner.
Here is the idiot. Don't let this man set your gears up.
http://www.sonoransteel.com/regear/0019.jpg
Bottom right corner.
I actually go to a place called Protrux, the X gets them extra bling points. but i'll be sure to avoid that guy on the street too.
So, even the newer carriers are still soft? I can see spending that much for an e-locker carrier, but I can't see spending 500 for just a stock 4cyl carrier.
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Originally Posted by ZUK
deathrunner---I occasionally run into that problem so the quick fix(usually permanent) is to use a sleeve locking compound....runs $24 for a bottle of it like the one shown in the pic below. I don't know how well Red LocTite would work in this application. What I do is clean surfaces....clean my fingertip with a touch of starting fluid....apply 2 drops to the parts....smear around with my oil-free finger and assemble case in the carrier with bearings under tension while it dries overnight.
I wish I knew of this when I bought my aussies locker (Although a fine product in itself), I would have just put that money into the detroit and setup.