kauaiaxel

I am working on an 86 toyota SAS 22r and it was running just fine then it stopped, wouldnt turn over and the power steering hose gets really hot. to the point that the hose actually starts smoking. Any ideas as to what it could be?

wyoming9

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Just how cold is the air temp??

Your sure it is a Power Steering hose??

The hose under use will get warm

I could think water may steam off if you hit a puddle.

Just what hose is hot the pressure one??

If you have a bearing about to fail it will cause higher then normal temperatures in the fluid.

Then most times they make enough noise to let you know.

kauaiaxel

Im in hawaii so the air temp is about 70-80 always

It the hose that scews in near the distributor, my power steering belt is completely off and has been since i got the truck. I wasnt driving it at all i just moved it in my yard then it shut off, now it wont turn over and the hose gets extremely hot when trying to start it. All it does is click like i have a bad starter. Also when i unscrewed the hose it wont even make the clicking sound.

87hoerunner

First thing I would check is power wire coming off top of alternator and make sure it's not touching hose then the ground wire that bolts up to the side of the head and make sure it doesn't have power going to it

RJR

Are you sure that's a power steering hose you're looking at? Sounds more like a battery cable, either a ground or the cable to the starter.

I can't think of any reason why a power steering hose would get hot while you're trying to start it and the engine won't turn over, but I can easily envision a battery cable getting really hot if the starter is stalled. Maybe the cable is touching the hose underneath where you can't see it easily.

87hoerunner

I've seen it happen on big rigs where power wire rubs into and grounds to the body. For some reason when it does the power steering hose is sometimes the first thing to start smoking

wyoming9

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The OP pulled it off I am thinking ground cable .

Poor ground the cable will get hot if it is bolted to the head .

Just what held this so called hose in place.

When removed did the fluid pour out ??

RJR

Actually, that sort of makes sense. The power steering hose is reinforced with steel braid to handle the high pressure, so could wind up carrying ground current (fairly inefficiently) if the real ground cable has come loose or has a bad connection.

kauaiaxel

The hose is



This is the hose that is heating up, when i took it off fluid came out but it also wouldnt even make the click sound it was making

87hoerunner

Your alternator battery wire seems to be covered by conduit but I would check the ground wire that is on the power steering bracket if I remember correctly. It could have power to it through a rubbed wire and it's energizing the block.

kauaiaxel

That picture was from my daily driver 85 im not near my 86 at the moment, i was just showing the actual part since i keep getting asked if its really a hose, ill post pics of my 86 when i get home today

RJR

My guess is that you have an open ground wire to the block, and your power steering hose is trying to be the substitute. Since it is not nearly as good a conductor as the real ground wire would be, it just gets hot and doesn't supply enough current to turn the starter, just enough to make it click. When you remove the hose you don't even get the click.

Check out the heavy-duty ground wire between your battery and the block. Make sure the connections are clean and shiny on both ends.

kauaiaxel

Thanks, ill check on that as soon as i get home

kauaiaxel

I changed out all the fround wires and hooked them all in their proper areas and it seems to have worked. However, i think the bad grounds fried my alternator and my starter.