Triple

First, the truck. 1989 Toyota Pickup 2WD. Carbureted 22r w/ 4-speed stick:





The truck is currently wearing these hideous aftermarket alloys. In addition to being ugly, they are also pretty corroded and I think they're letting air out of the tires.





I want to replace them with a set of simple OEM steel rims, so I picked up these:





They fit the rear hubs just fine, but up front they rub here:





I was only out $40, so I took my chances with a set of 15x6 rims from a 2013 Tacoma instead. The bolt pattern is correct, but the hole in the center of the wheel is too small for the truck's hubs, front or rear.





The only rim I have (besides the ugly alloys) that fits both front and back is this, and I only have ONE of them:





I really want to mount the 2013 rims. Is it safe to bore out the hub hole to fit the larger hub? If so, I'd have to give up the center caps or switch to full wheel covers. Adapters, maybe?


A couple shots of the front and back minus the wheels:








Is the front already wearing some kind of adapter?

SCToy

That's just how the front hubs are vs rear drums. I gotta say, I kinda like those alloys.

SCToy

Your problem is the offset of the newer rims are wrong for your truck. You need the wheels off the correct generation or to look up the correct offset and match it. There's more to wheels than just bolting them up. Often even if they 'work' you're messing up the scrub radius by changing to different offsets.

Triple

Are these safe? I wonder if they put excessive stress on the original studs or cause premature bearing wear. I would also expect corrosion, sandwiching an aluminum spacer between a steel wheel and hub.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-2-0-50mm-W...dc0be2&vxp=mtr





However, they would seem to solve the problem of the mismatched offsets. Take a look at the photos below; the lugs on the ugly alloys mount approximately two inches deeper from the outer edge of the rim than the lugs on the new steel wheels.








By shimming it these two inches from behind, the steel rim should mount in exactly the same spot within the wheel well, correct?

Chaser Johndoe

he was talking backspacing. not measurements from the front. You need a 5 x 4.5 bolt circle. I do not know what backspacing or offset you need. Yes those two measurements are different. Most front wheel drive wheels should bolt up if you find the correct wheel with the right backspacing. I have Mustang wheels on my 2wd and work perfect. But that's a rwd to rwd so the offsets are similar.

That's just my 2 cents thou.

donomite49

why don't paint those alloys that came with the truck with black plastidip, the rubberized paint?
if you coat the inside of the rims with the rubber paint it will seal the leak between the tire bead and rim.

i think they would look good blacked out.

Triple

If the wheels are the same width and of similar thickness, measuring from the front and rear should yield nearly identical results, only reversed. I'm not sure if the old alloys are six inches wide to match the steelies; specs are not stamped into them and I'll have to remove them again to measure myself.




I've considered refinishing the old alloys, but it's possible/likely that I will invest the time, effort, and money only for them to continue leaking. This is also the only set of wheels/tires in my possession that actually fit the truck; refinishing them will leave the truck on stands throughout the process. Lastly, I don't have the tools to manually remove the tires from the rims (or another vehicle to transport them to a shop to mount the new tires).

donomite49

you got a spare?

do one wheel at a time.

someone told me to use roofing tar but i used the rubber paint thing.

or have the tires dismounted and do the tar thing to seal them and paint them at home with the tires mounted.
leave the weights off the outside when balancing too.

Triple

Are there any good resources online for referencing wheel specs? I haven't found a site yet that lists each wheel's bolt pattern, offset, hub diameter, and lug specs all in one place.


I also don't know how to identify a wheel as my truck's "generation" without first seeing it on another truck. The older, generic OEM steel rims all look the same to my naked eye.

Chaser Johndoe

just look up 5x4 1/2 blot pattern wheels. Ford used it on the Ranger, Mustang, Taurus, and many other models. Or just look up after market Mustang wheels some for the mid 90's to early 2000's. offset and all that should be darn lose to what you need.


edit: Also Chrysler/Dodge/Ford/Mercury used that pattern on older muscle cars. I actually have 2 from a 70's Chrysler on the front of my truck as temporary wheels.

Triple

Guess I'll try to re-sell all the stuff I just bought:


https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f11/...a-rims-279465/


https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f11/...pickup-279467/