70elcoss

ok my starter is going out so im about to order a new starter and solenoid. are these prices about right? and which one should i get? one for a heavy duty and the other is for a non heavy duty, ive never heard of either lol

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...layCatalogid=0

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...layCatalogid=0

70elcoss

its for a 1990 4runner v6 4wd by the way

tried4x2signN

psst! your starter only need contacts! get the Toyota ones...

70elcoss

when i turn the key, it clicks a bunch of times and then sometimes it cracks the engine really weakly. then eventually it will start lol so just the contacts? how hard are they to swap? ive never pulled a starter before

tried4x2signN

No banana job... if (compared to) you can get the starter out


there's got to be a writeup around here somewheres...

I had a relay go out on me one time too...It was weird b/c all I've ever heard about relays are they either work or don't... no in between... BS.

I could yank the relay out and start it with a tester I have... some times it worked (the relay) sometimes it didn't.

Pull it out, pull the cover off, take the contacts out and sand them... put back in as see if it's better... WAY cheaper than buying a starter you don't need... (IME)

mt_goat

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...OnlineOrdering

tried4x2signN

They are mechanical parts, I'm not gonna lie to you. And just like any mechanical part, it could be bad... The entire thing. But I've seen WAY too many ppl do what you're doing and waste a perfectly good starter, and blow a $100 too...

mt_goat

I like what Roger says in that link I posted, he figures the starter should be good to about 500,000 miles:

tried4x2signN

I was going to say the same thing... Unless you've got 300,000 or a bazillion miles... you def don't need a starter.

Toyota electronics, better than ANY aftermarket... and that says A LOT right there.

Know it, live it.


BTW, ever wonder why you can't get "High Torque" starters for Toyota's and Nissans?

B/c all the aftermarket ones that I know of USE Toyota and Nissan starters, adapted to bolt on to a H.O Chev or Ford...

nsb22

This is EXACTLY what my starter was doing. It even tested fine at the parts store. What was the problem you ask? The contacts, especially the battery side, were bad. The battery side was almost completely gone.

It was $35 out the door at my toyota dealer.

Do this before you end up like me. Sitting in a parking lot because the contact finally gave up the ghost.

Took me maybe a half hour to change the contacts for my first time.

Magnusian

You can usually pick up the contacts you need from any starter and alternator shop for about $4-6 each. It's usually not necessary to replace the plunger for the solenoid, the contact ring on it does wear at a slight angle, so if you want to save some dosh and keep it up to snuff just get a buddy with a lathe to clean the contact ring up and flatten it out, there's enough material on it to do this at least twice. Takes longer to get the stuff you need to fix the starter than it does to fix it. The hardest part will be taking the starter out and putting it back in. You will however notice the same thing that nsb22 did when replacing them, the battery-side contact wears out significantly faster than the engine side one. This is a result of material being burned off due to the high current and arcing.

I'm another one to chime in about avoiding aftermarket starters, I don't know much about ones for the v6s but the aftermarket ones for the 22R series are crap don't hold a candle to the Toyota one when it comes to reliability and longevity. The guy who runs the starter and alternator shop I goto told me that far more often than not it's just the contacts that need replacing and that he almost never has to do any other repairs on them. Google, and this forum, confirm that.

A nice thing though, for anyone with a 22R(E/ET) if you get the contacts for the v6 starter they will fit in your starter and offer both a larger contact area and longer life.

DupermanDave

Main Entry: heavy–du·ty
Pronunciation: \ˈhe-vē-ˈdü-tē, -ˈdyü-\
Function: adjective
Date: 1914
1 : able or designed to withstand unusual strain <heavy–duty trucks>
2 : intensive <heavy–duty bargaining>
3 : important, prominent <heavy–duty lawyers>

snobdds

You said it is slow to crank sometimes, you might want to look at your battery to. Replace the contacts and a new battery...you good for another 5 years!

Outsane

I have a set of the contacts from 4crawler I didn't need.

I could send you