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09-04-2009, 10:26 PM
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Is this a recent problem? Is the steering wheel straight when going straight down the road?
Have you done any hard wheeling or hit anything with either front tire lately?
Are you hitting the steering stops when turning right?
Have you done any hard wheeling or hit anything with either front tire lately?
Are you hitting the steering stops when turning right?
09-05-2009, 07:02 PM
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I don't get it either. Must take a Canadian to understand tight left versus tight right.
As nice as it sounds to say the steering stops determine the range of motion in the front wheels, that is not always true. If any one of the following: tie rod, drag link, idler arm or relay rod are bent or mis-adjusted; that could easily cause one wheel to turn in to a tighter arc than the other and change the turning radius to favor one side over the other.
As nice as it sounds to say the steering stops determine the range of motion in the front wheels, that is not always true. If any one of the following: tie rod, drag link, idler arm or relay rod are bent or mis-adjusted; that could easily cause one wheel to turn in to a tighter arc than the other and change the turning radius to favor one side over the other.
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09-05-2009, 09:18 PM
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As nice as it sounds to say the steering stops determine the range of motion in the front wheels, that is not always true. If any one of the following: tie rod, drag link, idler arm or relay rod are bent or mis-adjusted; that could easily cause one wheel to turn in to a tighter arc than the other and change the turning radius to favor one side over the other.
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09-06-2009, 02:50 PM
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i just got the t4r last week. you were right about the steering stops. i took a good look and the driverside arm touches much faster than the other one thus giving the turning radius. cant i just disconnect it then give the steering wheel a turn then put it back on? i like how it turns left i can make a u-turn anywhere but im going to loose that if i adjust it to compensate for the right hand turn. is there a procedure for this?
09-06-2009, 03:08 PM
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wait wait wait, what do you mean "the driver's side arm touches much faster than the other one"? 
and are you talking about disconnecting the pitman arm and turning the wheel a bit and then putting it back on? if so, then yes that'll be the fix to the arm being off a tooth if that's what you're getting at. and then unless you can deal with a crooked steering wheel, you'll have to take it to get aligned, becuase in order to compensate for the fix the tie-rod ends have to be adjusted to straighten the wheel back out
had to do the same thing when I replaced my gearbox; I installed my pitman arm off a tooth at first and I could turn sharper right then left
oh by the way... I hate being right
and are you talking about disconnecting the pitman arm and turning the wheel a bit and then putting it back on? if so, then yes that'll be the fix to the arm being off a tooth if that's what you're getting at. and then unless you can deal with a crooked steering wheel, you'll have to take it to get aligned, becuase in order to compensate for the fix the tie-rod ends have to be adjusted to straighten the wheel back out
had to do the same thing when I replaced my gearbox; I installed my pitman arm off a tooth at first and I could turn sharper right then left
oh by the way... I hate being right
09-06-2009, 04:20 PM
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So wait... the driver's side stop touches first but the truck also makes left turns sharper?
Since the driver's side is on the left (at least in Florida), and it hits the stop first, and you make sharper left turns... I'm really confused: if you turn the wheel left, the left rear stop bottoms out and you can turn sharper left than if you're turning right.
If that is correct, you've got something keeping the right wheel from turning all the way to the right. Considering there are two stops on each wheel, hard to say what the problem is- may be the front stop on the left wheel limiting how far the steering moves, may be the arm off the steering box... like I said: hard to say.
Since the driver's side is on the left (at least in Florida), and it hits the stop first, and you make sharper left turns... I'm really confused: if you turn the wheel left, the left rear stop bottoms out and you can turn sharper left than if you're turning right.
If that is correct, you've got something keeping the right wheel from turning all the way to the right. Considering there are two stops on each wheel, hard to say what the problem is- may be the front stop on the left wheel limiting how far the steering moves, may be the arm off the steering box... like I said: hard to say.
09-07-2009, 11:47 AM
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So wait... the driver's side stop touches first but the truck also makes left turns sharper?
Since the driver's side is on the left (at least in Florida), and it hits the stop first, and you make sharper left turns... I'm really confused: if you turn the wheel left, the left rear stop bottoms out and you can turn sharper left than if you're turning right.
If that is correct, you've got something keeping the right wheel from turning all the way to the right. Considering there are two stops on each wheel, hard to say what the problem is- may be the front stop on the left wheel limiting how far the steering moves, may be the arm off the steering box... like I said: hard to say.
Since the driver's side is on the left (at least in Florida), and it hits the stop first, and you make sharper left turns... I'm really confused: if you turn the wheel left, the left rear stop bottoms out and you can turn sharper left than if you're turning right.
If that is correct, you've got something keeping the right wheel from turning all the way to the right. Considering there are two stops on each wheel, hard to say what the problem is- may be the front stop on the left wheel limiting how far the steering moves, may be the arm off the steering box... like I said: hard to say.
ok ok yes to make a left turn the drivers pitman arm touches the stop. then to make a right turn its the pass idle arm that touches the stop. i had it backwards lol. i think its what iamsuperbleeder and desertcamper67 are saying.
is this a steering stop? i have one on either side .
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i came across this thread. I just got all my suspension redone and now my steering is more limited than before, I get around 3.3 lock to lock now. Don't know what it was before but I can't make a u turn like I did before it's like 2-3 feet wider. Pretty sure the shop and alignment shop might be retards cuz I told them about it and they supposedly fixed it. So would I need to adjust the the teeth a bit on the pitman arms then re-align to get tighter turning radius? Right now when wheels are forward both pitman steering arms are pretty much pointed straight back, is that correct?
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