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Old 02-27-2012, 03:08 PM
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Threw a rod

Was coming home last night, and about a mile from my house, 40 MPH with the windows rolled down, I here what sounds to me like something rubbing on my fan. So i stick my head out the window a little to listen better, and CLANK!!! Engine seized. This was all of about 5-6 seconds from the first sound, to the death of my motor.

Coasted around the corner, open the hood and look around with the flashlight, and I see oil splatters on t drivers side firewall. Look underneath, and oil is everywhere, but not coming from down low. Start looking a little closer, and guess what I see sitting on top of my oil filter? Well, not sitting on it, more like embedded in the top edge of the oil filter. My connenting rod! Or at least, part of it. Right through the side of the engine.

Been running great, no indication at all anything was wrong. I'm religious about oil changes too, and I always inspect the oil that's been drained. Oil pressure is a little low, but has never dropped below operating range according to what the manual shows.

Anyway, Toyota just threw me a ridiculous price for a USED engine, and an even more ridiculous price for a new one. $3600-6500 respectively. Started looking around online, and this place popped up, but I never heard of them. Was wondering if any of you have used them, know of them or their reputation?
Toyotatruckengine.com

Any info would be appreciated. Need to find one that's reasonable priced, and have it sent to Toyota rather then buying a used one I don't have history on. That's what got me into this fix to begin with.

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Old 02-27-2012, 03:16 PM
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Why throw another 3.0 in there, for that price do a 3.4 swap.
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3.4L time brother!

http://www.4x4wire.com/index.php?opt...tech&Itemid=53
Old 02-27-2012, 03:36 PM
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OK, if I was doing it myself, I might consider that. I ain't capable of that at the moment, and can't afford to wait until I am capable. I need a truck ASAP. So, like I said, Toyota is going to do the work. Since tghey already quoted me $1800 for labor, I'm not about to let them do what's needed to swap to a bigger engine.

What I need to know is, does anyone know anything about the link I provided? I need an engine, I need it fast, and I need it sent to the Toyota dealer. If the link I provided is unknown to any of you, how about an online source that is known, and reliable? I just need to get my runner back on the road.

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bummer to hear.. I wouldn't buy a motor from people that have no ˟˟˟kkkin clue how to spell.... just read the description... seriously tho. Pretty cheap... 1500... bad spelling... all that.. i would go elsewhere or give them a call and talk to them about every little detail in that motor before you spend money. Find out what they do to them. Where they get their motors. How their warranty works... what parts they put in their motors..BLAHBLAHBLAH

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by 4x4climber
bummer to hear.. I wouldn't buy a motor from people that have no ˟˟˟kkkin clue how to spell.... just read the description... seriously tho. Pretty cheap... 1500... bad spelling... all that.. i would go elsewhere or give them a call and talk to them about every little detail in that motor before you spend money. Find out what they do to them. Where they get their motors. How their warranty works... what parts they put in their motors..BLAHBLAHBLAH

Good luck!

They only misspelled one word, and if you look at your keyboard, you'll see its a fat finger, more then a lack of being able to spell. However, I do intend to question whoever I go with.

Since it seems nobody has heard of them, how about the following similar priced companies. Anybody know of their reputations?

Japan Engines Inc?
Enginesus.com?
Hiperformer.com?

I just need to locate an engine from a reliable source.

Thanks again!
Rick
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Thier good people ,ask them about them motors from japan that they pull @ 30000.i bought a couple dam good motors.
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I'd probably look first at the local salvage yards to save shipping costs.
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Originally Posted by SR25JD
Thier good people ,ask them about them motors from japan that they pull @ 30000.i bought a couple dam good motors.
I assume you're talking about the Japan Engines Inc?

As for the salvage yards out here...HA HA HA. They are owned by Mexico and use the same cut throat mentality to run them. I been screwd more then once by them, and just don't give a damn. They had their own worker break parts while removing them, and still think you should have to buy it, or give them something for their time. I did call the only salvage yard in town that's trust worthy, but they don't have an engine for me.

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Quite a bit more then one fat finger letter punch
Several words, crappy grammar, looks like a kid typed up their whole page and nobody re-read it. Run-ons. But to each his own. Just pointing it out. Just raises Res flags for me that they half ass stuff...

But maybe they are super awesome... call the companies and talk to them and Google the ˟˟˟˟ out of them... see what ppl are saying.
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Give Oregon Engine Rebuilders a try.
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Originally Posted by 4x4climber
Quite a bit more then (than?) one fat finger letter punch
Several words, crappy grammar, looks like a kid typed up their whole page and nobody re-read it. Run-ons. But to each his own. Just pointing it out. Just raises Res (Red?) flags for me that they half ass stuff...

But maybe they are super awesome... call the companies and talk to them and Google the ˟˟˟˟ out of them... see what ppl (people?) are saying.

Ooops, I hate when my fingers do that. Sorry, couldn't resist messing with ya a little.


Anyway, might have found a reliable mechanic to do the swap for me. A lot cheaper than Toyota quoted me for labor. He'll guarantee his work and have it done in less then a week. He was recommended to me by a friend of mine.

I've also been on the phone 3 times today with the guy in the first link. But I'm still going to look at some others before I choose. I'll check out that Oregon Engine Rebuilder's also.

Thanks for the replies.
Rick

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Originally Posted by Swimmerboy2112
Give Oregon Engine Rebuilders a try.

I have heard nothing but horrible things about them. From a lot of people.



I know.. I am not a perfect typist... =) But I am using a cell phone. And I am just giving advice on a forum. I don't mis-spell stuff on my service R.O's at work or anything that is professional or business like..Anything a customer may look at. Resume's, job applications, advertising, business cards... Mine all have to be right for me to expect ppl to think I know what I am doing and give a rats... LoL

To each his own. Feel free to spell-check me.. =) I am sure I fat-fingered a button on my phone.

I would go with the local guy your friend knows for the install.
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Originally Posted by 4x4climber
I have heard nothing but horrible things about them. From a lot of people.



I know.. I am not a perfect typist... =) But I am using a cell phone. And I am just giving advice on a forum. I don't mis-spell stuff on my service R.O's at work or anything that is professional or business like..Anything a customer may look at. Resume's, job applications, advertising, business cards... Mine all have to be right for me to expect ppl to think I know what I am doing and give a rats... LoL

To each his own. Feel free to spell-check me.. =) I am sure I fat-fingered a button on my phone.

I would go with the local guy your friend knows for the install.

you must be the nicest guy in the world, still trying to help him
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you must be the nicest guy in the world, still trying to help him
Why, because he criticized someones minuscule errors, and I pointed out a couple of his own? I would hope that nobody with an IQ above their shoe size would be THAT petty. But even if they are...bummer for them if they can't handle a little constructive criticism.

Anyway, I spent today on the phone, calling other shops in Colorado Springs to see if that guy is legit and on the up and up, and what do you know...he seems to be. Been doing it a long time too, and only does Toyota truck engines, which makes him sort of a specialist, whether he can spell or not. LOL One of those shops said they've used his engines more than once with no problems. So, I'll likely go with him, since I haven't gotten a response back from my other inquiries.

I like the 3.4 idea, but I have to get my situation better before attempting that one. Good to know it CAN be done, since I've wondered on it for a while now.

Thanks again!
Rick
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Wanted to first say, I apologize if anyone took offense to my earlier posts. I'm just not that big on criticism...unless it's constructive. We all have our faults, and there are WAY bigger problems facing this country right now, to be sweating something so insignificant. You'll understand what I mean when UN and NATO troops come knocking on your door to confiscate your weapons.

Anyway, just got my truck back, and it runs great! I did end up going with Toyota though. My reasons are simple. If you read the fine print on the warranty of all the sites I listed, they have some ridiculous expectations. Some things are a give me, like new thermostat, hoses etc. The common sense stuff.

But when they tell you you also have to get a NEW radiator, NEW water pump, New this and that, have the fuel lines replaced, etc, and keep all the receipts for this stuff...or they won't honor the warranty...it ends up a 6K+ job. So, since Toyota did it all for 5K, with the same warranty I was going to get from them online sources, it becomes a no brainer.

So, I'm back on the road. I'm happy, and all is well.

Thanks again for all the responses.
Rick
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Originally Posted by SublimeBoa

But when they tell you you also have to get a NEW radiator, NEW water pump, New this and that, have the fuel lines replaced, etc, and keep all the receipts for this stuff...or they won't honor the warranty...it ends up a 6K+ job. So, since Toyota did it all for 5K, with the same warranty I was going to get from them online sources, it becomes a no brainer.
Oh it's definitely a no brainer, that's for sure.

Basically, you just paid $5000 to buy a used stock 3VZ-E and have it installed. Just for the WARRANTY!?

When you could have bought 2 remanufactured(essentially new) high-performance 3VZ-Es that put out 190HP @ 4800 RPM / 210FTLBS @ 4800 RPM, and come with a 7 year/70,000 mile warranty(with none of those ridiculous clauses you mentioned either). And you'd still have a grand in your pocket for installation costs, because they're only $2000 a piece. That means you could buy 2. Then run one of them and, if it ever needed repaired under warranty let's say, you'd still have standby/spare ready to go. An engine that's flat out better in almost every respect than stock, plus another one just like it ready if/when you need it!!! Talk about a no brainer!!!

http://raptorengines.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=144

Just tell me one thing. If warranties are so important to you, then why wasn't there one covering the cost of replacing the entire engine? Or had it expired possibly? Meaning you(or somebody) paid for it, and got nothing in return. Which is often the case with warranties. More often than not actually. Much more...

Whether you decide my criticism is constructive or not is up to you...because I do have a valid point. Whether you like/agree with it or not.

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if i had that much to throw into a engine. Lce without a doubt, or any of the other well mentioned companies. btw did it look like this? you could still drive it take out the rest of the rod 3cyl lawnmower


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Umm, actually, not used. A remanufactured engine guaranteed. New timing belt, new knock sensors, new starter, new hoses, new half shafts, all labor and tax, and Toyota's warranty, for $5K. I have 3 pages here of everything I had them do while it was at the dealer.

And given my friend the mechanic who was going to do it, is the one that told me I should go ahead and go with the dealer to save over a grand if he did it following the ridiculous requirements listed above, I think I did the right thing. You did get one thing right though...it's a stock engine. Seeing as the last engine was the original with almost 200K on it....must be the meth talking when you mention the "original warranty". I imagine that expired long before I even bought the truck. So where is your "valid point" at?

Seeing as i live on a ½ acre lot that's all sand, in a mobile home, with no garage, no shop, no cherry picker, and no time to do it myself, I don't think i did too bad. And where were you when I was asking earlier where to got a good remanufactured engine? You managed to show up after the fact and TRY humiliating me when you don't even have all the facts. Does your little wee wee feel any bigger now?

At least this way, if something goes wrong, they have to fix it for me, instead of me starting all over again.

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Oh it's definitely a no brainer, that's for sure.

Basically, you just paid $5000 to buy a used stock 3VZ-E and have it installed. Just for the WARRANTY!?

When you could have bought 2 remanufactured(essentially new) high-performance 3VZ-Es that put out 190HP @ 4800 RPM / 210FTLBS @ 4800 RPM, and come with a 7 year/70,000 mile warranty(with none of those ridiculous clauses you mentioned either). And you'd still have a grand in your pocket for installation costs, because they're only $2000 a piece. That means you could buy 2. Then run one of them and, if it ever needed repaired under warranty let's say, you'd still have standby/spare ready to go. An engine that's flat out better in almost every respect than stock, plus another one just like it ready if/when you need it!!! Talk about a no brainer!!!

http://raptorengines.com/index.php?m...roducts_id=144

Just tell me one thing. If warranties are so important to you, then why wasn't there one covering the cost of replacing the entire engine? Or had it expired possibly? Meaning you(or somebody) paid for it, and got nothing in return. Which is often the case with warranties. More often than not actually. Much more...

Whether you decide my criticism is constructive or not is up to you...because I do have a valid point. Whether you like/agree with it or not.
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No time, no shop or garage, live on a sand lot in a mobile home. 6-1 would equal a very rough running 5 cylinder. And you think I should have done it myself?

BTW, I don't have that kind of money. I'll be paying off my credit card for the next 2 yrs at least.

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if i had that much to throw into a engine. Lce without a doubt, or any of the other well mentioned companies. btw did it look like this? you could still drive it take out the rest of the rod 3cyl lawnmower



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