Tall oil filter .vs. Small oil filter
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Tall oil filter .vs. Small oil filter
Just wondering if anyone has ever done this. I posted two pics here, one of the standard recommended oil filter for my Toyota 5VZ-FE motor.
Back in the late 80's my friends and I all had little street-legal turbo 4-bangers we modified and raced(SCCA Solo 1). One thing we did was use the longer version of the factory oil filter since it allowed us to ad an extra 1/2 quart of oil. We figured more oil, more surface area on the taller filter, better engine oil cooling. I have no idea if it really worked but it seemed cool and did not seem to change the oil pressure.
So I'm wondering if the taller version of my motor's oil filter would work the same way without affecting oil pressure.
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Back in the late 80's my friends and I all had little street-legal turbo 4-bangers we modified and raced(SCCA Solo 1). One thing we did was use the longer version of the factory oil filter since it allowed us to ad an extra 1/2 quart of oil. We figured more oil, more surface area on the taller filter, better engine oil cooling. I have no idea if it really worked but it seemed cool and did not seem to change the oil pressure.
So I'm wondering if the taller version of my motor's oil filter would work the same way without affecting oil pressure.
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I realize it is not necessary but do you not think that increasing the surface area of the filter(via larger filter) PLUS the extra oil capacity will cool the oil temp down? Even if it's just a little the benefit seems like it's worth it.
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The length of time oil spends in a filter 1" longer than "stock" is not likely to increase cooling much if at all. The oil filter is in a mostly protected area out of any 'cool' air flow (and is even more protected if you have a/c), unless you think air coming off the radiator is cool. Even the oil pan radiates more heat to the atmosphere than the oil filter does simply because the pan has a greater exposed surface area than the filter does and oil has a longer period of contact with the pan than it does with the filter.
You should be more concerned about the quality of your oil and filter than with how much heat is radiated by the filter.
You should be more concerned about the quality of your oil and filter than with how much heat is radiated by the filter.
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I can't find it now, but I remember reading an in-depth analysis of a bunch of different filters, and it found that the FRAM and its relatives (PUROLATOR was one of them, I think) use a very cheap combination pressure bypass/anti-drainback valve that often leaks, allowing oil to flow out of the filter and therefore there is a delay in oil getting circulated while the pump refills the filter. Also on some of the FRAMs they cut open there were gaps where the filter paper wasn't glued fully on one end and oil could just flow right past.
Toyota filters are great, I've always negotiated great prices at the dealer when I buy a case at a time (12 filters, I think). I have heard many good things about the Wix/NAPA Gold filter. Mobil 1 filters are way overpriced. I've heard AMSOIL filters are the best on the planet. True?
Toyota filters are great, I've always negotiated great prices at the dealer when I buy a case at a time (12 filters, I think). I have heard many good things about the Wix/NAPA Gold filter. Mobil 1 filters are way overpriced. I've heard AMSOIL filters are the best on the planet. True?
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Toyota uses like 3 different size of oil filters. The 22re and 3vze and 5vzfe use the same one, the tall v8 one is for the 4.7L
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