Stupid battery question
12-10-2013, 10:38 AM
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Stupid battery question
Ok so this is for my 86 4runner DLX 5 Speed, anyways I tried jumping a buddy the other day because he left his head lights on all night, I hooked him up and just couldn't get enough power to him to jump his car... and i thought well maybe because the battery was really dead and the guys runs a BA sound system in there so it take a lot of power to jump, thought nothing of it.
Then last night I tried jumping my corolla and that wouldn't get enough power either! just enough to get the starter ticking but nothing more! so I took an external jumper battery ( Costco deal ) and it jumped seconds after I hooked it up?!
Whats wrong with my 4runner that I cant even jump a corolla??
Thanks in advance to the answers to my stupid question.
Then last night I tried jumping my corolla and that wouldn't get enough power either! just enough to get the starter ticking but nothing more! so I took an external jumper battery ( Costco deal ) and it jumped seconds after I hooked it up?!
Whats wrong with my 4runner that I cant even jump a corolla??
Thanks in advance to the answers to my stupid question.
12-10-2013, 10:43 AM
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Maybe not your 4Runner.
Just how many amp battery do you have in the 4Runner and what was the outside temperature??
What kind and size cables do you have??
When was the last time you cleaned the ends of the cables??
Good Jumper cables are not cheap !!
Is you vehicle starting all the time??
Just how many amp battery do you have in the 4Runner and what was the outside temperature??
What kind and size cables do you have??
When was the last time you cleaned the ends of the cables??
Good Jumper cables are not cheap !!
Is you vehicle starting all the time??
12-10-2013, 10:54 AM
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I bet you have the smallest diameter jumper cables ever. It takes pretty big cables to transfer 800 amps of power from vehicle to vehicle .
Old cables use to be huge. Now since everything is made in China, you never know what your going to get.
Get some welding wire and some connectors and make your own...
Old cables use to be huge. Now since everything is made in China, you never know what your going to get.
Get some welding wire and some connectors and make your own...
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Out side temp was cold like under 32 I believe
cables are maybe 8-10 feet long
4runner terminals were cleaned up last friday, corolla's its been a while
as for the cable I dont know how much they were, they were a present, Im guessing cheap
4Runner is starting every single time, in the cold (20 or so degree mornings) its been a rough start (got to give it gas to keep it runner for the first second)
as for the batter I dont know off hand ill see if I have a picture somewhere, im at work and drove my corolla
cables are maybe 8-10 feet long
4runner terminals were cleaned up last friday, corolla's its been a while
as for the cable I dont know how much they were, they were a present, Im guessing cheap
4Runner is starting every single time, in the cold (20 or so degree mornings) its been a rough start (got to give it gas to keep it runner for the first second)
as for the batter I dont know off hand ill see if I have a picture somewhere, im at work and drove my corolla
12-10-2013, 11:08 AM
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No go on the pictures of the battery and the cables were new, first time I tried to use them was of my buddys car then second was my corolla
12-10-2013, 11:10 AM
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If its a smaller diameter set of jumper cables, theres no point in trying to "jump-start" the other engine. I usually attach the cables, let their battery charge a while, and then let them try to start. Most modern "jumper-cables" are no good for actual jump-starting, just charging the other cars battery a bit.
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12-10-2013, 11:35 AM
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The truck starts every time, and I had the corolla hooked up for a good 15 minutes and still didnt get enough power to the car. Ill be heading home for lunch and can take a picture of the battery, and like I said the funny thing is that it started right up after I attached the battery jumper, and I attached that cables, got in my car and stated it up... Ill take pictures of the jumper cables, 4runner battery, and the jumper its self and ill see what you guys think.
12-10-2013, 12:18 PM
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I had this problem once. never again will I purchase cheap jumper cables.. completely defeats the purpose.
This is an easy test... borrow/purchase good cables and test a jump. If still no good test your alternator. Your cars battery, unles totally dead, shouldn't get in the way of jumping another car. Remember, just testing 12-volts at the end of the jumper cables means nothing.. so don't do that you need a current draw test.
This is an easy test... borrow/purchase good cables and test a jump. If still no good test your alternator. Your cars battery, unles totally dead, shouldn't get in the way of jumping another car. Remember, just testing 12-volts at the end of the jumper cables means nothing.. so don't do that you need a current draw test.
12-10-2013, 12:19 PM
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The truck starts every time, and I had the corolla hooked up for a good 15 minutes and still didnt get enough power to the car. Ill be heading home for lunch and can take a picture of the battery, and like I said the funny thing is that it started right up after I attached the battery jumper, and I attached that cables, got in my car and stated it up... Ill take pictures of the jumper cables, 4runner battery, and the jumper its self and ill see what you guys think.
12-10-2013, 12:59 PM
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Ok so here comes the photos..
4runner battery - VALUCRAFT (part # 58-LV)
Jumper cables - car and driver 10-12'
Battery jumper - awesome little thing to have
Corolla battery - part number 26R-60 (les schwab)
4runner battery - VALUCRAFT (part # 58-LV)
Jumper cables - car and driver 10-12'
Battery jumper - awesome little thing to have
Corolla battery - part number 26R-60 (les schwab)
12-10-2013, 01:38 PM
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Do you rev up your engine above idle while "charging" the other car before trying to start it?
If not, that might help.
Your alternator isn't doing a whole lot just at idle.
If not, that might help.
Your alternator isn't doing a whole lot just at idle.
12-10-2013, 02:02 PM
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hmm, well im pretty sure my corolla battery needs to be charged... I got a bad connection that like to come loose and havnt fixes it yet.
Is there a way to get a discount on a bigger, better battery if I trade in my current one? BESIDES the core exchange. (Im planning some lights and what not so more power will be needed)
Is there a way to get a discount on a bigger, better battery if I trade in my current one? BESIDES the core exchange. (Im planning some lights and what not so more power will be needed)
12-10-2013, 02:52 PM
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Many things:
1. Battery in your truck is WRONG. A 58 is generally a battery for most fords. You want a 34 or 24F depending on where the positive is. Looks like a 34 would do the trick. In some cases some toyotas take a 25/35 as well. 34/24F is a 650cca battery in most cases
2. Corolla battery is wrong as well, 35 or 24F. Throw away those replacement terminals and buy new ones as they are old, corroded and likely to snap if you take them off/on.
3. Terminals are all corroded and dirty. Baking soda and water then a wire brush
4. Cables, those are cheap chinese crap. Buy ones with the thickest wires possible.
1. Battery in your truck is WRONG. A 58 is generally a battery for most fords. You want a 34 or 24F depending on where the positive is. Looks like a 34 would do the trick. In some cases some toyotas take a 25/35 as well. 34/24F is a 650cca battery in most cases
2. Corolla battery is wrong as well, 35 or 24F. Throw away those replacement terminals and buy new ones as they are old, corroded and likely to snap if you take them off/on.
3. Terminals are all corroded and dirty. Baking soda and water then a wire brush
4. Cables, those are cheap chinese crap. Buy ones with the thickest wires possible.
12-10-2013, 03:09 PM
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Ok. Size of the battery only matters in how long the battery will last without being charged. So yez you dont have the correct bTtery in the truck but 600 cold cranking amps is enough.. thus the battery is powerful enough to start the TRUCK AND JUMP SMALL TO MEDIUM ENGINES. Sry bout caps..
Again get a better pair of jumper cables.. not just thick ones but fibrous. For example someone above mentioned 20 foot jumper cables made from welding wire. That's genius because welding wire is both pretty thick but more importantly it is fibrous. electrons travel on the surface of the wires so the more wires you have the more surface area you have therefore it can transport more electrons which is more current. Simple test to prove it to yourself is connect your jumper cables to your little jumper battery and try to start a carr with a dead battery that way, it shouldn't work if it doesn't work with your car. But I'm sure if you connect your little battery jumper directly with short cables it will work.
Again get a better pair of jumper cables.. not just thick ones but fibrous. For example someone above mentioned 20 foot jumper cables made from welding wire. That's genius because welding wire is both pretty thick but more importantly it is fibrous. electrons travel on the surface of the wires so the more wires you have the more surface area you have therefore it can transport more electrons which is more current. Simple test to prove it to yourself is connect your jumper cables to your little jumper battery and try to start a carr with a dead battery that way, it shouldn't work if it doesn't work with your car. But I'm sure if you connect your little battery jumper directly with short cables it will work.
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Many things:
1. Battery in your truck is WRONG. A 58 is generally a battery for most fords. You want a 34 or 24F depending on where the positive is. Looks like a 34 would do the trick. In some cases some toyotas take a 25/35 as well. 34/24F is a 650cca battery in most cases
2. Corolla battery is wrong as well, 35 or 24F. Throw away those replacement terminals and buy new ones as they are old, corroded and likely to snap if you take them off/on.
3. Terminals are all corroded and dirty. Baking soda and water then a wire brush
4. Cables, those are cheap chinese crap. Buy ones with the thickest wires possible.
1. Battery in your truck is WRONG. A 58 is generally a battery for most fords. You want a 34 or 24F depending on where the positive is. Looks like a 34 would do the trick. In some cases some toyotas take a 25/35 as well. 34/24F is a 650cca battery in most cases
2. Corolla battery is wrong as well, 35 or 24F. Throw away those replacement terminals and buy new ones as they are old, corroded and likely to snap if you take them off/on.
3. Terminals are all corroded and dirty. Baking soda and water then a wire brush
4. Cables, those are cheap chinese crap. Buy ones with the thickest wires possible.
Ok. Size of the battery only matters in how long the battery will last without being charged. So yez you dont have the correct bTtery in the truck but 600 cold cranking amps is enough.. thus the battery is powerful enough to start the TRUCK AND JUMP SMALL TO MEDIUM ENGINES. Sry bout caps..
Again get a better pair of jumper cables.. not just thick ones but fibrous. For example someone above mentioned 20 foot jumper cables made from welding wire. That's genius because welding wire is both pretty thick but more importantly it is fibrous. electrons travel on the surface of the wires so the more wires you have the more surface area you have therefore it can transport more electrons which is more current. Simple test to prove it to yourself is connect your jumper cables to your little jumper battery and try to start a carr with a dead battery that way, it shouldn't work if it doesn't work with your car. But I'm sure if you connect your little battery jumper directly with short cables it will work.
Again get a better pair of jumper cables.. not just thick ones but fibrous. For example someone above mentioned 20 foot jumper cables made from welding wire. That's genius because welding wire is both pretty thick but more importantly it is fibrous. electrons travel on the surface of the wires so the more wires you have the more surface area you have therefore it can transport more electrons which is more current. Simple test to prove it to yourself is connect your jumper cables to your little jumper battery and try to start a carr with a dead battery that way, it shouldn't work if it doesn't work with your car. But I'm sure if you connect your little battery jumper directly with short cables it will work.
Do you have any pictures or a thread to how you made them and what connections you used?
