ScottyC

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****This will be a production bumper at some point. But for now, its just for mine. I will need to get it setup for my jigs. And, it will require welding to be installed and to handle towing duties.


Okay, I got a little done today. I built the main body of the bumper itself, got one frame mount done, and the hitch built.

Since the 4runner will eventually get a 3.4L to replace the 3.0L, I needed something stout enough to handle towing. I have a small camping trailer setup for pulling it off road. Its basically a smaller version of a M416. So, that is the reason for the 2x3 main body and hitch.

When talking to my buddy John about how to make the bumper a little different, he threw out an idea joking around, and it kind of intrigued me. So, I tried to give it a shot to see how I like it. If I don't I can always just cut it off, but I will at least mock it up to see if its going to be feasible.

He mentioned doing something like a Lamborghini door for the rear tire carrier. At first we both kind of laughed it off, but then we started brainstorming to see if it was doable. We figured that with a hydrolic shock, or even an air shock, we could easily lift and lower the carrier. What I dislike about most carriers is that they open up into traffic, or into the driving lane by 5ft(like at the grocery store). I also dislike the trailer spindle designs because they fail easily and just aren't up to the task of the static load put on them. So, I decided that a roller bearing design would be the way to go. Just so happens it will work great for this application as well.
















The white pieces are HD Teflon blocks. They will be used to take up the space between the swing away arm and the bumper. That should allow me to clamp the swing arm tight to the bumper.







More to come.

phildelfino

So far so good. I like.

qdude79

I like the integrated tube design. I realize this thread is more about function than form, but I thought Id throw my vote in for the "look."

NicCantDecide

That's a very interesting idea. The main reason I never bought a tire carrier was because of the way they opened. Always a huge hassle.

I also like the bar coming out of the box tube. I'm very curious as to how this turns out and how you mount the damper/strut to keep the carrier up while still allowing the tailgate to open.

Hayes

nice work!

tc

The big problem I see is where are you going to mount the lift-assist cylinder that it won't be either sticking out when the tire is closed or block access to the back when it's open ...

ScottyC

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More progress. I had a couple hours to get some more done:













For now, everything is pretty much just tacked in place for mock up. I have to go grab some more 2x3 .188 wall for the lower swing arm, and the latching mechanism tomorrow.

freddy

more please...

ScottyC

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Well, I think I have ironed out the Pneumatic shock design at this point. Its going to require a typical rear hatch shock. The plan is to mount it between the 2x3 square and the rear tube on the bumper on the top of the hitch, and attach to the swing arm just above it. Then after its vertical, I will have a quick release pin on the upper end to pull the shock off to lower the tailgate when needed.

When I am done, I just close the tailgate, put the shock back in place, and lower it down.

The shock will be safe between the bumper and rear tube, and out of harms way as well as hidden when completely closed.

In most cases I won't need to lower the tailgate anyway with the window down, but can if I need to.

Hayes

I'm interested to see this worked through.

GenXr

Very nice looking!

BigBluePile

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Why have to disconnect the lift shock at all? It looks possible to push the swingout mount out a little farther outboard and mount the shock parrallel to the arm. That way you'll get max stretch out of the shock. Make sence?

How is the tire going to be supported? A-frame in the center or off to the passenger side? It's a sweet design, very unique!!!

tc

Hmmm ... will be interested to see it, but my initial thought is what a PITA just to use the tailgate. $0.02

What about incorporating some kind of torsion spring onto the hinge?

ScottyC

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I'm thinking about something like this, but on a small scale to hold the shock at the upper end. Should be a split second removal.


A torsion style spring is big $$$ considering i already have the current hinge.

ScottyC

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A-frame centered. I hate the look of tires mounted to the side. Not to mention the extra weight on one side of the rig. Add my 235lb ass and a 110lb tire wheel on the same side. Ugh............

The hinge will need to be removed in order to drop the tailgate down.

BigBluePile

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Right, got that. You're going to use a lift gate strut right? So, it's going to be attached to the bumper, above the hitch and then attached again on the arm above the hitch? That's one small strut...

Also, with the tire to the PASSENGER side at the hinge you might not even need the strut with all the wieght so low.

ScottyC

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True, but I won't be able to see squat. At least in the middle, I cans still see somewhat. Better than nothing.

BigBluePile

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Yup, it'll be better than nothing. Can't wait for more pics!!!

stagger_lee

So after I purchase a front bumper from you for my 84 runner, will this be in production for me to buy too?

ScottyC

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At some point, yes. Well, maybe with a standard swing away hinge. It will require welding though since the frame mount will need to be welded into the frame rails for strength.