B4Runner

anyways, for those of you who are near me, you can go see my tracks. i was just over the tip of deadwood heading into oak.

i jsut get over the tip of a huge hill and i always just let 4th gear in my 3vze take me down the hill the whole way between 45-55 mph.

so i had just gotten over the peak of the hill and started gear crusing. all of a sudden, i had dropped from 50 to 20 and was all over the road. id be gone if their was an on coming traffic.

the rear end blew. so as i get off the road, the truck wont start either. it turns over strong and all, but it sounds different. it cranks over a bit fast like there is no work to be done to turn the truck over. were guessing its the push rod.

so there goes my engine and rear end.

yesterday wasnt my day either. they say bad things happen in packs of three, that was the 3rd. 1st was running over my env3 in the chevy 3500 crew cab long bed on 35x12.5's. and demolishing it. wont mention the 2nd.

so i was lucky. all that happened at around 930 last night, narrow cliff side highway, wet roads, bit of fog. it was horrible. anyways, bye to that engine and $3k+

MaK92-4RnR

damn dude, that sucks. whatre you gonna do now?

tried4x2signN

not hardly.... The 3.0 is a negative interference motor... Here, I might as well spell it out fer yew... Sounds like the timing belt blew...


And there is no push rod, n00b... No push rods on OHC's (over head cams)

B4Runner

I kno man, it sucks. Well, the rear end if definately gonna get a locker now...most likely. No sense to buy a rear end for it just to go out in a few months and buy a locker later. And if the guy below me is right, then hallelujah.

Well, I'm glad for my noob status. It made you give your input, and now i feel like a huge weight was taken off my chest. Thank you!

tried4x2signN

You're welcome... And there are two types of interference motors, positive and negative.

Negative: Valves WILL NOT hit the pistons no matter what.

Positive: Valves may hit the pistons, and more than likely will. Though I have seen RARE instances they didn't.

Negative, no. Positive, yes.

And the 3.0 is negative.

MaK92-4RnR

^^^ now that I think about it, he's definitely right. I dont know much about Mitsubishi's but a friend of mine with an Evo blew his timing belt/chain and he had to do a full rebuild because he damaged internals.

whens the last time your timing belt was done?

B4Runner

Which would explain why its turning over so quickly and feels like its doing nothing. Now I'm just trying to find a good thread on the timing belt. I can do the rear end, but don't necessarily wanna tear into the nasty 3.slo.

B4Runner

damn it mak, i thot i was all good now and that it was just the timing belt. now i may need a rebuild too. haha. ugh

idk about the timing belt. PO bought and had the engine put in (not original engine) and it only has 65k on it since it was rebuilt by All Toyota Distributing or something like that.

tried4x2signN

Toyota timing belts only guys... NO, as in: DO NOT use aftermarket...

And, you only need a full(ish) rebuild if the valves have boogered your pistons... It's mostly head rebuilds. But, again, the 3.0 is NEGATIVE interference.

B4Runner

got that. but do u think mak is right? do u think i might have damaged internal components?

tried4x2signN

no. edited my post too late... See post #9.

He's talking about a different motor, you're assuming the same for yours... STOP THAT!

Mountain Cop

That just bites. Before you pull the engine apart, you might check the compression. There are a few other things that could have failed, and you won't be able to check it once you tear the engine down.

MC

B4Runner

good idea mc. well, if its anything to expensive, (bc theres no way i am gonna rebuild a 3.0,) bye bye to ford escort so i can have a cheap, yet reliable 4x4 truck.

@ tried:

but again, you think that its most likely just the timing belt itself, hopefully nothing else?

tried4x2signN

more than likely...

Take it home, take the front half of the engine off, remove the timing belt covers and see what you see...

Get a Toyota timing belt, return all to TDC, and install... Not making any promises, b/c I'm not there. I cant see what you see and hear what you hear... but that's where I'd start.

RobD

Rather than rebuild, an alternative would be to swap in a 3.4.

B4Runner

is it hard to take the front end of the 3.0 apart? i mean, out with the radiator is no problem. but the actual engine, it the tearing apart job hard?

yeah id love a 3.4 swap. in my last post, i said we would sell the escort to buy a reliable cheap truck for me...as in cant rebuild 3.0 at the time...cant buy a 3.4

24Runna

Not at all, just a few bolts really.... Make sure to take your time and go slow. There are plenty of write-up with pictures and were here to help. Should take around 6 or so hours pacing yourself and taking breaks.

B4Runner

a few bolts = 6 hrs. damn. taking my time of course, and ive been lookin up threads this whole time. thank you!

tried4x2signN

No, just bring your...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu_bE7g2wqM

24Runna

Heh, makes me laugh...