gte718p

I'm in the final stages of fixing, and cleaning my "new" 87 4runner. The last problem I have is the driver side window. The passanger side works fine. However, the driver side doesn't. It makes a single click sound when you push the up and nothing when you push the down button. However, it doesn't move. I tested the motor straight from the battery and it was good. I also took the switch apart and cleaned it. Everything seemed to be in working order. This leads me to believe its the relay. Where is the stinking relay. Looking at the fsm it looks like it should be right next to the fuse box in the driver kick panel. Am I missing something?

DeathCougar

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methinks the switch is bad. Do you own an FSM?

gte718p

I have the electronic version. I also I looked at the electrical tech manual at the stealer ship. In the FSM there is a trouble shooting guide for the switch. However, my pin out doesn't match what is in the FSM. It seems I have an extra pin. None of the combos that they said should work worked. However, the passanger window works.

DeathCougar

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you likely looked up the pinout for the armrest style switch. The 87 4Runner should have the panel mount switch, correct?

gte718p

It does.

I'm using the 85 fsm someone linked to on here.

toytech76

X2. often times the master switch goes bad but will still let the other windows work. I have yet to see a relay fail for the front windows

DeathCougar

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let me se if i can find my 87 FSM i have here. Give me a minute or two and I'll find the pinout procedure.

Keep in mind the 85 will be different, since 85's did not have electric locks like yours does.

DeathCougar

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Ok, found it.

Door trim type will have 8 total pins, labeled like this:

3 () () 2 1
8 7 6 5 4

(sorry for the crude labeling, the () are black spots where no hole exists)

Using a multi meter, check that the following have continuity:

UP- 1:3, 4:8
OFF- 3:4, 4:8
DOWN- 1:8, 3:4

That is the test for the drivers side master window switch. Hopefully it is easy enough to understand.

DeathCougar

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btw here is a scan i just took of my 87 FSM:

DeathCougar

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and for reference, for drivers side window, the test is the same with or without the window lock switch engaged, since the drivers side will operate regardless of whether its pressed or now.

Redeth005

Hey DeathCougar, Is this the only page you had of this subject? Im trying to convert my manual windows to power. And this seems to be the first piece i need to better understand how to wire everything correctly. Do you have any more pix? Can you possibly get a more clear full page scan or picture please. Ive been looking around everywhere online to see how to wire this and i havent been very successful. Thanks for your time.

DeathCougar

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I no longer own a scanner (that was almost 5 years ago!!!)

I have the FSM, but no actual way to make any copies of it.

Sorry

Redeth005

Bummer.... Maybe with a digital camera? or smartphone picture?
Or if you give me the name to the book you have better luck finding it.

Btw sorry i just sent you a PM in case you weren't subscribed to this thread anymore.

Philbert

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I had issues with my windows not working either (driver worked, passenger didn't). Took switch apart and turned out some prongs were not quite touching when the button was pressed. It's better now but I also have some slop in the pivot point of the switch, so when I push down I have to push additionally up or down (laterally to the Up/down motion) to get the contacts to fully engage sometimes....

Hope it's an easy fix.

Redeth005

Thanks Philbert. I'm actually putting in a whole power window system. My truck has never had power windows before. I actually pulled all the wires and buttons door panels etc off a downer 4runner at a junk yard. I'm just trying to see how exactly to wire this up. I've been working at th is for a good 3 hours now and still no progress with getting to move up or down. I already confirmed that the window motors work so that's at least pulled out. I've seen a few threads do this. But none have done it this way

Philbert

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Oh wow, didn't realize that - good for you! My truck is SR5 so I have power locks and windows on my door panel switches.

Are you getting power / ground where you are supposed to be, per the FSM?

I ordered those LEDs for the climate control, BTW, thanks for the tips!

DeathCougar

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The "book" is simply the FSM (Aka Factory Service Manual). You may however need the wiring diagram, which I don't have for your 4runner

Redeth005

Mine is different. I called the dealership 3times when I first bought this truck and they confirmed I have a SR5 too. I just don't have power windows or power mirrors. I only have power locks.
About those LED's. I'm glad I was able to help. That's why I made that thread. Glad it helped a few people.

Thanks for checking it out dude. I think I've gotten this Haynes manual figured out now. I have a wiring diagram for power windows and locks. Lets hope this gets the job done. I'm still trying to fully understand how to read it. But ChefYota explained a lot to news today which cleared a good deal up for me. So hopefully I have this spaghetti soup of wires figured out by this weekend. As for the FSM goes I'll try my best to see if I can find an online scan. Hopefully that'll help me out some.

DeathCougar

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Take the Haynes, and throw it into the fire before you burn your truck to the ground. Seriously. The wiring book from Toyota is ~$30 (I bought one for my 89) and they are still available. And they are accurate. Haynes is incorrect almost every time.

You can get the FSM on Ebay for around $30-$50 as well. Get those books, you will be glad you did.

Redeth005

Oh really... nice ok always thought these dealership books costed $130+
Or was that the mechanic book? I dunno. But if that book only costs that little Im thinking I might actually go for it. Thanks man.