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Old 09-15-2010, 06:49 PM
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plug gap out of the box

So last week i pick up some new plugs and wires from Toyota. I was told they were gapped just put them in. I do not know what they should be gapped at but it ran like crap at 2000 to 2500 rpms in any gear. I talked to a buddy he said check the plugs again. Today i picked up a new set of plugs from Toyota again and out of the box they were set to .025 is this right? I changed them all to .032 from what i found on this site that is what they should be at. It runs much better with the new plugs at this gap but still not great. Do I have this wrong? The week old plugs I pulled out were at .025 to .028 when i checked them. Thanks for any help you can give me. 1994 4runner 147000 3.0 5 speed stock till next week
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I know the plug gap on a 22RE is .032, not sure about the 3.0, but someone will post up if that`s right or not, but either way you should always check and set the plugs before installing them.

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Always and i mean always check and set your plug gap yourself. Never just put them in. Seems as though you fixed your own problem but keep the old plugs (after you properly gap them) for spares. And on a side note when you out them in you used anti seize and die electric grease right? Not calling you out but figured i'd ask in the slight case you didn't do it. If there's one way to do a job on a toyota it should be the right way.
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And as far as i know the gap is .032
Old 09-15-2010, 07:08 PM
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anti seize and die electric grease right?

Never done this to plugs I know enough about motors to cost me money. Well so times I come out ahead but I think this form will keep me out of some trouble. But 2 day before i found this site i did ripe the 3 wires out when I tired to get to the MAFS to clean it. Now i see millions of post on that here.
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Ok cool so you're a little new to the automotive maintenance world no problem. Reading and searching this forum can basically teach you how to take apart and reassemble your toyota. When you have a question read, when your sure of the answer read some more. right before you start re-read and then search for extra measure. trust me it will help along the way.
Now on the topic of anti-seize if you have yet to use it use it sparingly on the threads of the spark plug before installing it. It is used to make the plug not seize up in your aluminum heads after the motor warms and cools over a period of time. you'll be happy you used it when it comes time to change the plugs again.
Next the grease. It's put on any and every electrical connection for conductivity and weather proofing. in this case the ends of the plug wires and plugs. I just get a pea sized portion and put it in there and wipe the excess on the end of the plug.
Start reading man it'll save you tons of money and you'll have the piece of mind that your vehicle is running right because of you. When in doubt search, search some more, read then start another thread. there is a butt load of info on this forum untapped to you all you have to do is look. Start with the fsm (factory service manual)
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oh by the way, welcome, and good luck.
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Originally Posted by mightymouse
And as far as i know the gap is .032
That's correct.

And here's the FSM so's I don't have to show ya later.
http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-buchanan/93fsm/

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hoa bra you gotta look at denso's site to get da kine grind info on any toyota plug dey make, save you some time in da future ya if you getta new ride and needa gap

http://www.globaldenso.com/cgi-bin/g...name=4w-63.txt

dis link answer any questions cuz, every gap da toyota could take, new and old bra

Ok that was fun but don't torque a plug past around 14 ft/lbs in aluminum heads, you can use a small amount of anti seize like toyspearo was saying or just use a touch of oil on the threads, the goal with that is to get an accurate torque reading and it fights corrosion, but that link I gave has EVERY toyota plug gap, and denso is an OE part so you know its correct info
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I just look at the link at denso's site its says the 3.0 1994 sr5 4runner to be at .028 if I put the gap at .032 and it take the miss out of the motor why would that be do i have something else going on and thanks for all the help this site has me staying up way to late reading
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Well..if we're gonna get all technical the FSM states 0.8mm(0.031"). So there...ya happy now!
http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...14services.pdf

I gap mine at .036, but I use solid core wires too. So I don't recommend it without them.

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so i did gap them right
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yeah dude you should be fine. get back to reading!!!!!!
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Did you see the bottom of the page where it says to torque them to 13 ft. lbf. too? Ya don't wanna get all crazy and give 'em 14 ft lbf.

Lord knows...the sky'll come crashing down if you do!

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I did see that when i put them in i just put them in what i would call snug hope i dont get screwed on this one.
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Naw you'll be ok, but get a torque wrench, you can do almost every tune up procedure with a cheap husky or craftsman one that is around $80
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I will have to check into the torque wrench. The more i think about it the more pissed i get at toyota and there whole pregap crap. I was about to take it in there and pay the shop rate to find out what was going on with the miss.
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Originally Posted by slim94
I did see that when i put them in i just put them in what i would call snug hope i dont get screwed on this one.
Should be fine. I can honestly say I've never used a torque wrench on a spark plug. It's just one of those things that once you get a feel for there's not much forgetting it. I don't use a torque wrench for much of anything anymore.

Just using da old German torque system nowadays.

Gutentite! As in tighten until...

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Talking

4runner running like crap again today. Thought maybe I have a bad coil so order on up today. Thought for 62 buck what the hell I will try and see if thats what it is. Yes it is from the dealer, factory Toyota I do not want to take the chase of put after market stuff on and it causing a issue. I will put this on Friday and see. If anyone else has any ideas please tell me what to check. Last week I did new plugs, wires, cap, rotor, pcv, air filter, intake hose, fuel filter. Had a shop clean the whole fuel system injectors included, set the timing. Just want it running good for next week when the 33x11.50 get put on. Again thats for any help
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I should have typed 32x11.50

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