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Was contemplating a boosted 22re nearly two years ago in a 4x4. Found that the frame was rotting away, so I got rid of it. Picked up a clean 2wd months ago and know that a rebuild is in order. So I found this...

Here is the ad:

Rebuilt/new
-Head surfaced, valves ground, seats ground, new valve springs and cam shaft
-New timing chain, metal-backed chain guides ($100) new chain tensioner
-New water and oil pump
-Block was bored out .040" with forged dished pistons
-New pistons wrist pins and retainers
-Complete Felpro gasket set
-Pacesetter header
-New MAF sensor and TPS
-All wiring, ecu, sensors, even radiator included!!

I offered him 550 and he accepted. Pulled it this Saturday. Looking to pick it up this coming Saturday. I think It's a good deal.

He doesn't have any receipts, but I chatted with him for a couple hours and have no reason to believe he didn't do the work listed.

He states that the pistons are low comp, but can't remember what brand pistons he used, Anyone have any ideas?

I would like to shoot for 200hp and have a good usable power band. I'm thinking about maybe a ct26 from a Supra or a T3/T4. It would be nice to build boost early. I haven't seen much info about these motors running boost. Any help/info is appreciated!

Robert m

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http://www.22rte-trucks.com/simplemachinesforum/

pickup

Tried to sign up to that site a few days ago, still waiting for confirmation.

Anyways, brought the engine home today. Wondering if a ct20 would get me to 200hp. With front mount and 3in exhaust. No need to build boost at high rpm

xxxtreme22r

don't the ct20's have "issues". You can check for low comp pistons by doing a simple compression test. As to brand who knows lots out there really. Another note, make sure the injectors and fuel pump can handle the fuel required for 200HP. They should, but just throwing that out there. Might wanna go with at least 1 step colder on the heat range for the plugs as well.

Good luck and looking forward to a build thread or build up of the turbo.

pickup

The reason I steer toward a ct20 is that I would like boost early, no need to have boost at high rpm. What type of issues are you speaking of?

I still have yet to find out what the stock injectors flow at, or what the fuel pump can handle.

Oh, there will be a build thread, with lots of vids.

I'm beginning to think that the forum that was posted earlier is dead. I see that there are some new posts, but it's been days and I have yet to receive confirmation.

pickup

Got into that forum, but it's pretty dead.

Any thoughts on clutches?

tim a.

that web site has been dead for a long time.still some good basic stuff there.CT 20 will not get you to 200hp.probably wouldnt get you to 145.You need to make boost and lots of it which means big turbo,which means no low rpm power.You will have to dissassemble the motor to check compression ratio.compression test aint gonna tell ya what the ratio is. Honestly if the guy doesnt know what pistons he used then you might want to have a little looksie around inside before you start pumping dollars into upgrades.Stock injectors will need an upgrade to make that type of power,and you will need a megasquirt or some other expensive controller.3rz is a much better option at this point.I love a 22re turbo,but its just so dang expensive to get to 150hp.might as well start with 150hpp(3rz) and go from there.

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I figure I'll get some 440 injectors from a supra, install a walbro 255, and run megasquirt. What I'm stumped on now is the manifold and clutch. I can pay out the butt for these two things, but would like to find a cheaper alternative.

GranVille-4crawler

dont go ct20. it wont get you 200hp. if your gonna do this do it big. i say a MHI evoII16g. great spool time and you still have topend pull where the ct20 would die out. I had one on my old gsx and was going to go the same route with my wrx before the trans decided to grenade one me. 440 injectors sound about right.

xxxtreme22r

I don't know too much about these things, but I would think as far as the exhaust manifold goes, you' be able to run a separate exhaust piece from the end of the manifold collector to the turbo instead of either using a premade manifold or trying to find a factory ret manifold.

Personally, I wouldn't skimp on the clutch though. Maybe the Marlin 1800lb would be enough to hold? if not I believe centerforce makes a good clutch for these as well.

GranVille-4crawler

dont skimp on the mani. get a tubular one. twin scroll would be optimal.

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Have any links to manifolds? I can't find much. I've found one factory used and he wants 250, not including a down pipe.

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And when you say great spool time, when do you think I'll start to build boost and how soon it will peak?

kevtek

Yea the CT20 will do nothing but what it was designed to do. My old 22RTE was a fun truck, not quick though, and certainly not fast. 12psi peak at 3.8K RPMs. It's gonna take a lot of work/money to get a 22RE to 200HP, I'm sure it can be done, and would be completely awesome. Looking forward to your build.

Sub'ed, post some pics of your motor when you get a chance!

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I'm thinking:
100 for injectors
3-500 for turbo
4-500 for tuning
100 for manifold
100 for fuel pump
300 for clutch
2-300 for gauges
2-300 for an intercooler.
So, around 2k for 200hp. Not bad, I think
Anything else I'm missing?

xxxtreme22r

not sure if this were mentioned or not, but, with the factory RE compression ratio is 200HP even possible without pinging/timing issues?

Engine was bored 40 over which will help lower compression, but if the head was milled, you may loose some of that benefit.

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He tells me he installed low comp pistons. He can't remember the brand, but I've got no reason not to believe him.

rod_knock

a downpipe depending on which type of turbo you end up using and either a blow off valve or bypass valve also the oil lines to and from the turbo you may also consider an sds for your fuel injection relatively cheap alternative.
http://www.sdsefi.com/
hope this was of some help

GranVille-4crawler

this is where it gets pricey. your going to prob need to get one fabbed up. which is pretty rad but expensive. my 16g would be spooled at almost 3k on my gsx 4g63t (dsm, hey everyone drives them at one point) your prob gonna have more luck with turbo information at a boosted forum. so i suggest looking into that. there are some really smart guys out there than can do crazy things with forced induction.

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Rod knock: Thanks, I forgot about them.

GranVille-4crawler: The 16G is bottom mount right? I imagine with the extra 400cc of displacement I could build boost a bit earlier too. That turbo sounds like it would be a good match.