HiLuxer

does anyone know for a fact that the 2nd gen and 3rd gen pickup IFS frames are interchangeable? my '91's pu frame is kind of rusty and i think i have to do a frame swap soon.

i persoanally think they are but it'd be good to know from the people that have personal experience.

thanks for all the input.

iamsuperbleeder

hmmm, I honestly don't know... I think there were a few minor changes...

but anything's possible with a little

Cyberman

I highly doubt that the frames are interchangable between generations, especially if it's an xtracab. The 2nd gen is even different between 4x4 and 2wd, as well as which engine was in it.

iamsuperbleeder

well I would only hope that he figured he would at least have to stick with the same basic model, like standard cab, motor, 2wd or 4wd, ect...

HiLuxer

Yeah, I'm eyeing on a 4x4 '88 STD cab PU frame with 22RE. Mine is also STD w/ 22RE. If the major differences are only the cab mounts or anything along that line, that shouldn't be a problem.

I meant if the wheelbase, width, track and dimension are identical.

thanks guys.

drew303

I swapped frames for my 87 ... but i found an identical frame. But i personally know how hard it can be to find a frame! HOLY CRAP! lol i got really lucky

I know the rear springs were different lengths, so the front hangar or rear shackle hangar might be moved. But overall I'm willing to bet they're are the same. Drivetrains were the same, front suspension is unchanged. And cabs are the same size (visually)

I'd get out the tape measure and just go and see if the 4 cab mounts line up, if they do i bet the bed does as well.

I said "bet" a lot here as I've never compared the two. But i can't imagine what they'd of changed. Crossmembers are the same (for tranny).

gluck

drew303

I have seen 2nd gen beds on 3rd gens and vicea versa here in town... or that could be 2nd gen cab on a 3rd gen chassis or vice versa lol

so either they just did straight up swap or modified.

bottom line its doable.

just dont get a 2wd frame, those ARE different.

HiLuxer

Thanks a lot for the input. It's an '88 rolling chassis. Heck, it even comes with W56 trans and tcase. Also with the rear springs and fuel tank/pump.

All I need to do is swapping the cab and bed but since I'm zero banana, I need less work possible for myself.

Keep the info coming fellas.

Cyberman

If you want to find out for sure, look at the FSMs. I know the 2nd gen FSM has the frame dimensions for all of the models (under Vehicle Exterior, Body Mechanical, Body Dimensions).

Edit: You may also want to look at the extent of the rust. Mine was all surface rust. A little sand blasting and a recoat was all it needed.

davido1

Along the same lines. Are all of the IFS parts interchangable?

Can you put 1st or 2nd gen 2WD 4Runner spindles on a 85 2WD pickup?

Sorry for the odd question. Looking for brake upgrade options for a 2WD "race" truck.

Thank you.

drew303

they made 2wd 4runners? Isn't that an oxymoron? wouldnt it be called a 2runner then =p just kiddn. It is kinda dumb they made them tho.

but to answer your question, i have no idea. They're probably different because even the 2wd runners had the 4wd chassis, unlike 2wd trucks ..which have a different chassis than any of the lot. but i could be wrong

iamsuperbleeder

the Toyota engineers really like's screwing with people heads, didn't they

why couldn't they just settle on the one design and make them all the 4wd style chassis and suspention, just the 2wd's wouldn't have a t-case, front d-shaft, front diff, and CVs...

Cyberman

That'd be too easy...

bigt

and costly

dropzone

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Frame Dimensions can be Found in This Toyota Frequently Asked Questions Thread: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459180

yotAddiction

I did a frame swap on my '87 to a '92 frame. Everything bolted up. I know there are a few differences, but nothing that will stop you from bolting everything up without problems. FYI, the '87 was a single cab 4 cyl 4x4, as was the donor frame.


Good luck!