Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

Failed Smog...High NOX

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-25-2015, 01:10 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
jmoua's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Failed Smog...High NOX

I have a 93 Toyota pickup 2WD 3.0L V6. I failed smog test because of super high NO. I have a bad EGR temp sensor. Is this the only problem or is there more area I should look into before I go retest?

ECS: Failed: Wiring to Sensor (must be EGR related)
Failed: Other Emission Related Components (what can this be, EGR related?

Below is my smog test results:

%CO2 %O2 HC (ppm) CO
RPM MAX AVE MEAS MAX AVE MEAS
15 mph 1614 13.9 1.9 92 19 14 .70 .09 .05
25 mph 1565 13.8 2.0 57 13 18 .84 .08 .04


NO (ppm)
MAX AVE MEAS
15 mph 533 173 856
25 mph 786 177 1259

Last edited by jmoua; 08-25-2015 at 01:41 PM.
Old 08-25-2015, 01:59 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
k-ray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Aurora, Colorado
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My last emissions test had my truck failing for the same reason. High NOX.
I also have a 3.0 L in a '88 4X4. My problem turned out to be the catalytic converter. When I replaced that, the NOX numbers came way down. Something to consider if you still have the high reading after fixing the EGR issue.
Old 08-25-2015, 02:38 PM
  #3  
Super Moderator
Staff
iTrader: (1)
 
Terrys87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Anderson Missouri
Posts: 11,788
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
I know there is a thread on here that has a ton of information on this but cant find it. Some of the high points I remember is a

Properly functioning EGR. I have gotten several EGRs working, just need a real ggod cleaning.

You need a factory catalytic converter, may want to use it just for smog test. The aftermarket converter usually wont pass.

A fresh tuneup.

Post your results when done and I will try to mark the thread for the emsissions test.
Old 08-28-2015, 09:41 AM
  #4  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
jmoua's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I just found out the the vacuum hose were all connected to the wrong VSV's that is why CEL is on. I do not have a bad EGR Gas Temp Sensor as I mentioned above. My question is does having the wrong vacuum hose connecting to the wrong place produce high NOX. Just want to know before going in for my free smog retest.

Thanks
Old 08-28-2015, 10:51 AM
  #5  
RJR
Registered User
 
RJR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 1,776
Likes: 0
Received 109 Likes on 81 Posts
If the CEL indicated a problem with the EGR system, and the actual problem was misrouted vacuum hoses, then yes, I would expect the smog test to go much better with the hoses routed correctly, assuming your CEL light is now off and stays off. The sole purpose of the EGR system is to reduce NOX - it pretty much has to work for you to pass the NOX smog test.
Old 08-28-2015, 01:18 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
scope103's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco East Bay
Posts: 8,254
Likes: 0
Received 822 Likes on 649 Posts
The EGR code (71) is triggered by the temp sensor; the EGR system re-routes exhaust gas under certain circumstances to the plenum, so the ECU looks for the necessary temperature rise in that tube at the appropriate times. Cold tube => code 71.

SO, if you successfully removed the code by straightening out the vacuum lines, then you should be good to go; you have your ECU stamp of approval. Of course, you may not have successfully fixed the lines (the CEL may come on later), or you may have several things wrong (your EGR tube is so clogged that getting exhaust into it isn't enough).

As RJR hints, most NOx failures are from a completely mucked-up EGR system, so if it were my truck, I'd head for the retest.

Good luck!
The following users liked this post:
swampedout (02-12-2021)
Old 09-01-2015, 02:24 PM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
jmoua's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Follow up.....Put all the vacuum hose in the right place and pass smog, NOX measured low 200's.

Thanks for everyone's help. Great forum and people on here.
The following users liked this post:
swampedout (02-12-2021)
Old 09-01-2015, 03:40 PM
  #8  
RJR
Registered User
 
RJR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 1,776
Likes: 0
Received 109 Likes on 81 Posts
Great! Thanks for letting us know!
Old 10-29-2019, 05:25 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Victor M Castillo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RJR
Great! Thanks for letting us know!
Do u have pic of the. Routing of the vaccum lines
Old 02-11-2021, 08:48 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
LADave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Easy fix

1988 SR5 with injected California 3RE. Failed California smog because of NOx a little over the limit.

The problem turned out to be a plugged port in the EGR, which connected to the bottom of the EGR Vacuum Modulator with a hose. I removed the connecting hose, sprayed carb cleaner into the small metal EGR port tube, let it marinate, then shoved a wire in and worked it back and forth. Started up the engine and got a wiff of carb cleaner coming out of the tube, then exhaust gas coming out. Stopped engine, replace the connecting hose, and went back to the smog station. Passed with NOx about 1/3 of the legal limit.

Easy fix, without removing the whole EGR assembly.
The following 2 users liked this post by LADave:
2ToyGuy (02-12-2021), swampedout (02-12-2021)
Old 03-29-2023, 03:42 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
Feralyouth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Ca
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just failed my box too

Originally Posted by k-ray
My last emissions test had my truck failing for the same reason. High NOX.
I also have a 3.0 L in a '88 4X4. My problem turned out to be the catalytic converter. When I replaced that, the NOX numbers came way down. Something to consider if you still have the high reading after fixing the EGR issue.
how much of a difference did the cat make? I just tried to smog my 88 and box levels were 1606, the limit is 704.
dos the new cat make that much of a difference?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
stanz
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
21
12-30-2015 09:14 PM
outdoors_andy
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
5
06-03-2015 05:27 AM
IronsmanMedic
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
21
07-17-2014 07:09 PM
ozziesironmanoffroad
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
89
10-05-2008 05:43 PM
jandk2005
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
38
05-21-2006 10:31 AM



Quick Reply: Failed Smog...High NOX



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:09 AM.