BluVudu

I just put a transmission in my truck and was glancing through the Chiltons book to kinda double check stuff... it says DON'T FORGET TO RECONNECT THE CLUTCH RELEASE ARM SPRING! I have never seen one of these on my truck. 3rd transmission and I have no idea what it is... I see it on a diagram but this part has never been there. Doesn't the clutch push all of that back? Or do I need to fabricate some sort of spring for the clutch release arm?

iamsuperbleeder

my 91 has no spring to do that

there's just two metal clips that I guess you could call "springs"; one to hold the throwout bearing onto the fork, and one to hold the fork to the transmission

BluVudu

yeah the stupid book calls for a spring on the outside end of the fork but there has never been one there before. I even checked the old transmission. One of my buddies said that a hydraulic clutch system will not need a return spring. I'm confused and don't wanna fry another tranny lol

DeathCougar

iTrader: (23)

Chiltons=fail

There is not a clutch spring. The pressure plate pushes back on the throwout bearing, which in turn pushes on the clutch fork, which pushes on the slave cylinder, which pushes the rod back into the cylinder forcing the fluid back up the line, and back into the master which pushes the pedal back.

Make sense?

The only thing a Chiltons is good for is firestarter. Throw that thing away and get an FSM.

BluVudu

Thanks DeathCougar! I had figured that out last night and got it together and it all seems good. I appreciate the explanation. Oh and I agree... Chilton's SUCKS! I have a Haynes manual that I like but it was not with me. I do need to get an FSM.

calcuta

the release spring goes between outter end of the fork arm and bellhouseing to keep presure on it so it doesn't just flop around and rattle when the clutch is released.

BluVudu

Got it all done... thanks guys!

Buck87

Does any one have a picture? I pulled my release spring out after I installed the transmission and want to reinstall it correctly. Can I get by with out it?

BluVudu

yeah I'm not trying to disagree with anyone on this but there IS a spring that basically clips the arm on a pivot point... there's also a spring that holds the throwout bearing on the arm. After I found these parts on the old transmission, I had to take mine back out and install these parts lol all good now

DeathCougar

iTrader: (23)

What you are talking about are retaining clips. They are not return springs, they have zero spring ability.

Buck87

Blue vudo is correct. On my 87 in addition to the 2 retaining clips for the throwout bearing there is a spring (or clip) in the fork, and it is not a return spring ( I understand that the clutch needs no return spring). I'm not sure that the release spring is absolutly necessary but I would like to install it correctly. I think that it can be done through the boot since part of the spring actually goes through the boot and that is where I pulled it out from after installing my transmission yesterday. The diagrams that I have seen do not make sense; so I pulled the spring out. Now basically I am trying to figure out which end goes in first. If anyone has a picture that would be very helpfull.

DeathCougar

iTrader: (23)

Its a clip (Fork shaped, two prong) that slips behind the pivot ball, and holds the clutch fork to it.

blake.nemitz

sure its not the spring on the clutch pedal itself that returns the pedal back up and hold it there, if you dont have that then the weight of the pedal can keep your throwout bearing riding the pressure plate.

Buck87

That makes sense. Here are some pictures of me installing it through the clutch lever hole.
http://www.photoshop.com/users/Bigka...8d66bd8a78fdfe
http://www.photoshop.com/users/Bigka...052a28081cc141
http://www.photoshop.com/users/Bigka...d2ffd6e6268f92
http://www.photoshop.com/users/Bigka...208a5a6ac768a9

Buck87

Ok here's a picture of the part

me putting it in through the boot hole

Part installed correctly?

DeathCougar

iTrader: (23)

Thats the later model style spring, but yes thats correct.

The one we recently installed on TruckFiend's rig was incorporated into the actual shift fork

Buck87

Thanks everyone. For the record I recommend installing the clip before installing the transmission.