Bigger shocks without modification?
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Bigger shocks without modification?
I have a set of Rancho rs99144 and rs99158 that I had bought for my Land Cruiser II, LJ 71.
I sold the LJ but kept the shocks and now would like to install them on my 1993, Surf (4RUNNER) that has IFS suspension. I know for sure that Rs99158 with its 21.35 inch extended and 13 inch compressed lenght is way too big fro the front.
I am in Pakistan and I have limited access to shocks and other goodies, so I must make the best out of what I have.
I would like to use these Rancho shocks as secondry shocks, in addition to the stock shocks. On the rear, the shock dimensions, travel lenght etc of Rancho 99144 is similar to stock, so that should not be a problem.
However on the front the stock shock is very small, the extended lenght is just 13 inches. Would it be possible to some how install the Rancho as secondry shock almost horizontally so that it does not limit nor ristrict the travel of the stock shocks but still provides support?
Sajidd
I sold the LJ but kept the shocks and now would like to install them on my 1993, Surf (4RUNNER) that has IFS suspension. I know for sure that Rs99158 with its 21.35 inch extended and 13 inch compressed lenght is way too big fro the front.
I am in Pakistan and I have limited access to shocks and other goodies, so I must make the best out of what I have.
I would like to use these Rancho shocks as secondry shocks, in addition to the stock shocks. On the rear, the shock dimensions, travel lenght etc of Rancho 99144 is similar to stock, so that should not be a problem.
However on the front the stock shock is very small, the extended lenght is just 13 inches. Would it be possible to some how install the Rancho as secondry shock almost horizontally so that it does not limit nor ristrict the travel of the stock shocks but still provides support?
Sajidd
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Hi Crolison,
Skills, tell me about skills.. what is needed to get it done.
In regards to $$, well mechanical / technical help is some what more
affordable here as compared to the US.
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Sajid
crolison yeah it is, just gotta have the $$ and the skills, or know someone who has the skills.
Skills, tell me about skills.. what is needed to get it done.
In regards to $$, well mechanical / technical help is some what more
affordable here as compared to the US.
Regard
Sajid
crolison yeah it is, just gotta have the $$ and the skills, or know someone who has the skills.
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The short answer
Yes - but if you have to ask HOW - then NO
The reason:
There is NO ROOM for a secondary shock.
The Downey dual kit did it by running the cans on the bottom and the shafts on the top - the shafts almost touch the frame. And NO - those downye shocks are skinny and are not as long as the shocks you are trying to fit.
Also - they got rid of the stock shock.
The other problem - the OEM upper A arm has no room for a shock to fit at ull droop - even if you fabricated a hoop. I was planning to do this until I took a closer look. And I have 7100 series shocks for the project (way more $$ than the shocks you are trying to fit).
If you have no access to shocks but access to steel and a welder and you know what you are doing...
Take a look at the Total Chaos Long Travel Gen1 Caddy setup.
You will have to "make" something like that in order to get it to work.
Thats a $$$$ amount of fabrication for saving a few $ on shocks...
Yes - but if you have to ask HOW - then NO
The reason:
There is NO ROOM for a secondary shock.
The Downey dual kit did it by running the cans on the bottom and the shafts on the top - the shafts almost touch the frame. And NO - those downye shocks are skinny and are not as long as the shocks you are trying to fit.
Also - they got rid of the stock shock.
The other problem - the OEM upper A arm has no room for a shock to fit at ull droop - even if you fabricated a hoop. I was planning to do this until I took a closer look. And I have 7100 series shocks for the project (way more $$ than the shocks you are trying to fit).
If you have no access to shocks but access to steel and a welder and you know what you are doing...
Take a look at the Total Chaos Long Travel Gen1 Caddy setup.
You will have to "make" something like that in order to get it to work.
Thats a $$$$ amount of fabrication for saving a few $ on shocks...
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The short answer
Yes - but if you have to ask HOW - then NO
The reason:
There is NO ROOM for a secondary shock.
The Downey dual kit did it by running the cans on the bottom and the shafts on the top - the shafts almost touch the frame. And NO - those downye shocks are skinny and are not as long as the shocks you are trying to fit.
Also - they got rid of the stock shock.
The other problem - the OEM upper A arm has no room for a shock to fit at ull droop - even if you fabricated a hoop. I was planning to do this until I took a closer look. And I have 7100 series shocks for the project (way more $$ than the shocks you are trying to fit).
If you have no access to shocks but access to steel and a welder and you know what you are doing...
Take a look at the Total Chaos Long Travel Gen1 Caddy setup.
You will have to "make" something like that in order to get it to work.
Thats a $$$$ amount of fabrication for saving a few $ on shocks...
Yes - but if you have to ask HOW - then NO
The reason:
There is NO ROOM for a secondary shock.
The Downey dual kit did it by running the cans on the bottom and the shafts on the top - the shafts almost touch the frame. And NO - those downye shocks are skinny and are not as long as the shocks you are trying to fit.
Also - they got rid of the stock shock.
The other problem - the OEM upper A arm has no room for a shock to fit at ull droop - even if you fabricated a hoop. I was planning to do this until I took a closer look. And I have 7100 series shocks for the project (way more $$ than the shocks you are trying to fit).
If you have no access to shocks but access to steel and a welder and you know what you are doing...
Take a look at the Total Chaos Long Travel Gen1 Caddy setup.
You will have to "make" something like that in order to get it to work.
Thats a $$$$ amount of fabrication for saving a few $ on shocks...
Wow, thats a lot of work. I think there maybe an easier solution. How about I sell this 1993 2nd generation 4runner and get a 1996 3rd generation 4runner? I think it has more space in the front for dual shock set up.
What do you think?
sajid
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i run dual shocks and they not as good as a coilover system (total chaos or the new ifs toyota's) if you can sell the 93 and get a 96 you can afford a caddy kit
heres my set up right now which is the downey dual kit (it works ok but im saving up for a TC kit)
for the long travel kit
http://www.chaosfab.com/95200.html
heres my set up right now which is the downey dual kit (it works ok but im saving up for a TC kit)
for the long travel kit
http://www.chaosfab.com/95200.html
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Seems to me that all roads lead to Total Chaos!
I will for sure explore them, but after the 93 is sold.
Right now its at a used car lot, sitting idle !
I am also leaning towards a 96 / 97 3 door prado that has coil spring
suspension and 1kz 3000 cc turbo engine. Its either that or a 96/97 4runner with same engine but i guess slightly different suspension. The nice thing
about the 4runner is that it has 5 doors.
Anyway, will revisit this subject once i have bought something..
Thanks for the feed back and help.
Sajid
Seems to me that all roads lead to Total Chaos!
I will for sure explore them, but after the 93 is sold.
Right now its at a used car lot, sitting idle !
I am also leaning towards a 96 / 97 3 door prado that has coil spring
suspension and 1kz 3000 cc turbo engine. Its either that or a 96/97 4runner with same engine but i guess slightly different suspension. The nice thing
about the 4runner is that it has 5 doors.
Anyway, will revisit this subject once i have bought something..
Thanks for the feed back and help.
Sajid
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Hi Ewong,
I dont have to use these shocks. If need be and I must then I will order new Ranchos suitable for my 2nd generation 4 runner. However even with them
I want a dual shock set up. Our local fabricators are pretty good in copying stuff, and if I can get hold of some drawings or pictures, then surely can
try to fabricate a hoop/ mount etc both for the front and rear to house dual shock set up.
Sajid
I dont have to use these shocks. If need be and I must then I will order new Ranchos suitable for my 2nd generation 4 runner. However even with them
I want a dual shock set up. Our local fabricators are pretty good in copying stuff, and if I can get hold of some drawings or pictures, then surely can
try to fabricate a hoop/ mount etc both for the front and rear to house dual shock set up.
Sajid
The short answer
Yes - but if you have to ask HOW - then NO
The reason:
There is NO ROOM for a secondary shock.
The Downey dual kit did it by running the cans on the bottom and the shafts on the top - the shafts almost touch the frame. And NO - those downye shocks are skinny and are not as long as the shocks you are trying to fit.
Also - they got rid of the stock shock.
The other problem - the OEM upper A arm has no room for a shock to fit at ull droop - even if you fabricated a hoop. I was planning to do this until I took a closer look. And I have 7100 series shocks for the project (way more $$ than the shocks you are trying to fit).
If you have no access to shocks but access to steel and a welder and you know what you are doing...
Take a look at the Total Chaos Long Travel Gen1 Caddy setup.
You will have to "make" something like that in order to get it to work.
Thats a $$$$ amount of fabrication for saving a few $ on shocks...
Yes - but if you have to ask HOW - then NO
The reason:
There is NO ROOM for a secondary shock.
The Downey dual kit did it by running the cans on the bottom and the shafts on the top - the shafts almost touch the frame. And NO - those downye shocks are skinny and are not as long as the shocks you are trying to fit.
Also - they got rid of the stock shock.
The other problem - the OEM upper A arm has no room for a shock to fit at ull droop - even if you fabricated a hoop. I was planning to do this until I took a closer look. And I have 7100 series shocks for the project (way more $$ than the shocks you are trying to fit).
If you have no access to shocks but access to steel and a welder and you know what you are doing...
Take a look at the Total Chaos Long Travel Gen1 Caddy setup.
You will have to "make" something like that in order to get it to work.
Thats a $$$$ amount of fabrication for saving a few $ on shocks...
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