Erik Beeman

First post here guys.


Got a 88' Toyota Pickup 22RE as my 'play toy'. Nothing done to it bone stock, except thinner head gasket which raised my cylinder/PSI from stock 172 to 205 on all 4 cylinders, like I said, other than that, bone stock truck. Call me stupid, tell me waste of money, tell me other things I can do, but I'm curious before I go ahead and do it. I have a LC engineering high RPM cam w/ springs and rockers in my shopping cart (http://www.toyotacatalog.net/M1WebGe...-0800EDF245E8), along with the header-back exhaust kit (http://www.toyotacatalog.net/M1WebGe...F-03EAF4286BA0) & (http://www.toyotacatalog.net/M1WebGe...-CDB9FAB44EFE).


Stock, I believe they are rated at 116hp, or 105hp, I've heard both from difference sorces. Whatever it is, the truck is slow. I'm looking for some feedback as to what I should expect with these simple bolt ons? Something we can get done in a few hours, will I be happy, in sensible terms. Anybody done these mods, or maybe one or the other? If anything....it'll sound cool

rusche

LC header. Intake, either of the engnbldr cams. 4.56 gears maybe, depending on your tires

Erik Beeman

Say my motor is pumping out its proclaimed 116hp.... Cam, header, exhaust, would it be a noticable difference on these motors? I mean, I guess since we're dealing with low HP numbers, any slight difference would be noticable, eh?

abecedarian

how about some pics?

then I may consider

Erik Beeman

With nearly 6 thousand posts, I'd hope you have seen pictures of a stock 1988 Toyota pickup...

abecedarian

I own a 1988 stock toyota 22re equipped 4runner, so I don't need pics of it...
so how about pics of that head gasket you have that boosted your compression from 170 to 200+?
pics of the compression gauge before and after will be sufficient.

Erik Beeman

Sorry, I thought you had meant pictures of the truck.

As for the head gasket...I don't have pictures, I did it 3 months ago, and never thought twice about taking any pictures, wasn't planning on having to show them to anybody. And for the compression, no pictures either, BUT, if you are persistant about REALLY having to see them, I can go hook it up and take one now of the gauge.

rusche

I'd like to see those.
If you had a paper thin head gasket it wouldnt raise compression like that...

Erik Beeman

I'll snap a photo

Erik Beeman

Sure it would. You put a thinner gasket on, it's going to lower the head towards the block...do it enough, and your compression is up.

abecedarian

personally, I don't believe a head gasket by itself will raise the compression that much. not that it's not possible considering going to a full copper gasket, o-ring'd and such may do it... it's just that I didn't see that information in the original post. so, take that for what you will.
the 'stock' HP rating is approx 116 for a 22re. 22r tend towards the 110 range.
given your 'mods' (planned or real) I would expect approximately similar performance to a 22rte (turbo'd) truck or 4runner. an adjustable cam gear can net you a tad more bottom end power without significantly sacrificing the top end power. run the valves on the tight-end of acceptable and you should have a decent performing truck.

if it were 2wd, I'd guess at the mid/high side of 14 second 1/4 miles.

Erik Beeman

Thank you for the information.

On a side note, I don't see very many RTE, are they rare?
I'm doing a compression test now, I am curious.

abecedarian

not many turbos 'per-se' ... they do exist and are relatively common. What turbo's are out there tend to be collectors' pieces. But if it matters the compression ratio works against the power- typically around 7.5:1. They sacrifice bottom-end performance (due to the lower CR) for top-end... and honestly, they don't even really do a good job of that either.

AZ89LONGBED

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I am running a similar setup to what you mentioned, valve timing advanced 2 degrees. What RPM range are you wanting to build power in? You should really figure that out first, as your cam selection is a critical component of that. LC has some good stuff, but you can find some other good cam companies out there, I would personally use Engine Builder, try a search for EB 268 or 261 cams.

The most HP you can expect with a naturally aspirated 22re would be in the 140-150 range using your stock EFI. You can build for more N-A power, but costs go way up & reliability may not be there for the long haul.

Check and make sure your vacuum system is leak free, coolant & 02 sensors are functioning properly, and timing is spot on.

Erik Beeman

Cool, I'm learing already.


In the front yard...about the do numbers two three and four....but,
So far,
CYL#1 = 209PSI
CYL#2 = 219PSI
CYL#3 = 209PSI
CYL#4 = 207PSI

I have ty camera phone pictures I'll upload when I'm finished in the front yard

Erik Beeman

I'm a street driver, the thing never see's the track, or the quarter mile...so it's a road machine, BUT, I always find that my right foot....is to the floor. I have a tach set up, I'm usually around 3K+ at any given time (which I know is not high, but I can only get it to rev to about 5500 in gear, and in N it'll hit 6k even and revv limit. Seems most power is around 4500, starts losin it around 5+) hence the reasom I'm looking at the higher RPM tach.

abecedarian

I think this may be a good time to ask...
Erik- do you want to drive this truck on the street, or is it going to be an off-road/drag truck?

*edit... damn... if I'd have waited 30 more seconds....

abecedarian

yep, seems like 140-150 HP is about all a 22re (the fuel injection system, not the engine) can cope with (and that would include a turbo added to a 22re).

more than that is possible, but not with the stock EFI components.

Erik Beeman

I have no plans to, because if I wanted more power I think I'll just build a full motor, but after being limited at 150hp, whats the next step? Swapping out the stock EFI and throttle bodies?

Pistonman

It would be cheaper to do an engine swap.