3VZE overheats, not thermostat, no heat
11-22-2011, 10:25 AM
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3VZE overheats, not thermostat, no heat
My 1990 3VZE just started to rapidly overheat.
Temp gauge goes up and antifreeze spews into overflow tank.
Pulled thermostat and it tested ok. Put a new one in anyway (after testing it).
No heat out of front or rear heater. No leaks that I can see.
When I start it up it takes a normal amount of time for the temp gauge to go to the middle.
Shortly after that, the top of the rad and the upper rad hose fitting on the block gets to 230 - 250 while the lower thermostat housing is only 130. The temp gauge rapidly goes into the red and AF spews into overflow.
Fan works fine.
It's winter here, so overheating is not a normal thing.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
ps please don't say it's the head gasket unless you know it might be, I can guess that too.
Temp gauge goes up and antifreeze spews into overflow tank.
Pulled thermostat and it tested ok. Put a new one in anyway (after testing it).
No heat out of front or rear heater. No leaks that I can see.
When I start it up it takes a normal amount of time for the temp gauge to go to the middle.
Shortly after that, the top of the rad and the upper rad hose fitting on the block gets to 230 - 250 while the lower thermostat housing is only 130. The temp gauge rapidly goes into the red and AF spews into overflow.
Fan works fine.
It's winter here, so overheating is not a normal thing.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
ps please don't say it's the head gasket unless you know it might be, I can guess that too.
11-22-2011, 10:45 AM
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I know you don't want to hear that your head gasket is toast, but at least make the effort to check for it being a possibility. Denial won't fix the problem.
I would pressure test the cooling system and check to see if there are exhaust gases in the coolant. I hate to say it but it does sound like a classic HG failure.
I would pressure test the cooling system and check to see if there are exhaust gases in the coolant. I hate to say it but it does sound like a classic HG failure.
11-22-2011, 11:34 AM
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11-22-2011, 11:49 AM
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Quick test to see if there's a headgasket breech between cylinder and water jacket:
Pull radiator cap (do not do this with the engine warm), start the truck, look for bubbles.
Pull radiator cap (do not do this with the engine warm), start the truck, look for bubbles.
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11-22-2011, 12:48 PM
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Going to take it to the shop and have them pressure test it.
Thanks all, will post the results.
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11-22-2011, 04:05 PM
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The temp gauge just spiked and I shut it down right away.
Didn't lose much fluid.
I haven't driven it since then. Just been testing it.
The rad drained ok when I changed the thermostat.
11-22-2011, 04:44 PM
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The radiator on my '80 wasn't plugged but the layer of corrosion inside reduced the thermal efficiency enough that it eventually started to overheat. I don't think that's the case here but I figured I'd throw it out there.
If your heaters aren't working the heater cores are probably plugged up as well. A good flush *might get everything flowing again. If it hasn't been flushed in a while it would be a good idea to do it anyway.
If your heaters aren't working the heater cores are probably plugged up as well. A good flush *might get everything flowing again. If it hasn't been flushed in a while it would be a good idea to do it anyway.
11-22-2011, 04:53 PM
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just throughing it in there... but wont a bad radiator cap have the same effects at a bad HG..... Sounds more like a lack of flow though.. just something cheap to check would be your cap
11-22-2011, 04:57 PM
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OP said coolant was going into the overflow tank, meaning the radiator cap is doing it's job.
11-22-2011, 06:13 PM
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The radiator on my '80 wasn't plugged but the layer of corrosion inside reduced the thermal efficiency enough that it eventually started to overheat. I don't think that's the case here but I figured I'd throw it out there.
If your heaters aren't working the heater cores are probably plugged up as well. A good flush *might get everything flowing again. If it hasn't been flushed in a while it would be a good idea to do it anyway.
If your heaters aren't working the heater cores are probably plugged up as well. A good flush *might get everything flowing again. If it hasn't been flushed in a while it would be a good idea to do it anyway.
They were both blowing hot up until the overheat.
11-22-2011, 06:14 PM
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11-22-2011, 06:33 PM
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That's what I meant when I said the radiator cap was doing it's job.
11-22-2011, 07:59 PM
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rad hoses in okay condition? when the t-stat opens, suction occurs on the cold side of the radiator and if the hose liner has separated from the casing it'll suck shut cutting off flow.
11-23-2011, 06:31 AM
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