video card pulling too much power from supply, causing a crash? - Page 2

jackwolf · 06-26-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dark_fairytales

I see a lot of rambling on about power supplies and what not, but not spec. If you want real help ill send you a pm with my phone number and i can talk you through all you need to know.

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Lumpy · 06-26-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_fairytales

I see a lot of rambling on about power supplies and what not, but not spec. If you want real help ill send you a pm with my phone number and i can talk you through all you need to know.

here is a link to get all your comp specs. http://cpuid.com/cpuz.php down load cpu-z 1.5.1 setup and run the app. it will show you all the hardware specs.

I don't like installing things on the machine that you really do not need. He gave the model of the video card as well as some spec on the machine. I have had issues with Video cards in the past requiring larger PS....so that is what we came up with...

dark_fairytales · 06-27-2009, 12:35 AM

there is a label on the psu ( power supply ). this label looks like a table with voltage and amp specifications. the portion you would be interested in, has to do with how many 12volt rails the psu has and at what amps those 12volt rails are supplied with. also what comp ( computer ) accessories are powers off of those rails, such as a dvd rom. so the first step is to know how many amps the 7950gt uses at max 3d capacity. I looked up the info. on line for the 7950gt and it draws 85 watts at max. now to find out how many amps that is at 12volts you do the following equation. 85watts/ 12volts= 7.08 or 8amps. the 12volt rail that provides the power via. the six pin pci-e plug must be more than 8amps to power the 7950gt with no issue. remember though if you have other accessories powered off of that same rail you will need even more amps then 8 to still be able to power your 7950gt. So pull out your psu and check the label, if your psu meets the requirements you do not need a new psu. watts mean nothing on psu's its all about amps per rail and how many rails, more rails means better more stable delivery of power to comp hardware. I hope some of this help, and i hope it is not to nerdy for YT. I LOVE TEACHING PEOPLE HOW DO DEAL WITH COMPS SO THEY CAN GIVE GEEKSQUAD THE FINGER TOO.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-27-2009, 05:57 AM

actually, i was planning on leaving it alone for now (i turned the graphics WAY down and it plays well now) and just building a new computer. but seeing as how it wont be built for 3-4 months, i might as well upgrade the psu, and keep this one aside for when i give this comp to my mom (who doesnt play games). so the 7950gt is taking 85 watts at max 3d? thats almost a quarter of the power supply, then take into account the hard drive (an old inefficient IDE), the processor, the processor fan, the case fan (which has a blue LED built into it) the dvd burner, the other fan in there i added for extra cooling when i built it, and the mobo itself. prob way more than 450 watts running the geforce at max capacity.

dark_fairytales · 06-27-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

actually, i was planning on leaving it alone for now (i turned the graphics WAY down and it plays well now) and just building a new computer. but seeing as how it wont be built for 3-4 months, i might as well upgrade the psu, and keep this one aside for when i give this comp to my mom (who doesnt play games). so the 7950gt is taking 85 watts at max 3d? thats almost a quarter of the power supply, then take into account the hard drive (an old inefficient IDE), the processor, the processor fan, the case fan (which has a blue LED built into it) the dvd burner, the other fan in there i added for extra cooling when i built it, and the mobo itself. prob way more than 450 watts running the geforce at max capacity.

i dought it, but if you plan a new build any way. your good to go. if you have question about any hard ware in the future just send a pm, im always willing to help out

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-27-2009, 07:11 PM

will do, thanks.
im just gonna build one cuz i feel like getting another one.... i also like having the strongest computer in the house, and i did have the strongest one, until my sister got her dell intel quadcore computer... time to upgrade!

dark_fairytales · 06-28-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

will do, thanks.
im just gonna build one cuz i feel like getting another one.... i also like having the strongest computer in the house, and i did have the strongest one, until my sister got her dell intel quadcore computer... time to upgrade!

eewwww quadcore and dell, lol

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-28-2009, 06:20 PM

whats wrong with quadcore?
and whats wrong with dell? my laptop was from dell, i had no problems. sold it to my friend, and it still works. its 8 years old.

Lumpy · 06-28-2009, 07:34 PM

Noting wrong with Dell...HP or Compaq. Acer are not all that bad either. What I like about Dell over the HP and Compaq is that they'll send you parts for warranty work the others need to have it sent out and takes 3 weeks.

Texas91Runner · 06-29-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

yeah, defragged 2 days ago. system specs r
amd athlon 64 x2 dual core 5600+
2.81GHz
2GB ram
XFX Geforce 7950gt PCI-E
IDE hard drive (yeah yeah i know..)
SATA dvd-writer
450W power supply
windows xp home

Just one flaw--I don't believe Windows XP home supports a dual-core processor, if my previous research is correct.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-29-2009, 07:02 PM

oh really? ....didnt know that.... will look into that. which OS does?

Lumpy · 06-29-2009, 07:10 PM

Any of the professional...I would not purchase a home OS...

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-29-2009, 07:15 PM

hmmm.... i always thought XP home and pro were one in the same, obviously with pro having more features.

Texas91Runner · 07-03-2009, 10:06 AM

Yeah, windows Pro really does have its significance over Home.

If you're willing to wait a while, I've heard some good things about Windows 7. It's much more reasonable, as far as resource usage and accessories, than Vista. I downloaded the beta a few months ago, and that OS is worth the space on your HDD (because the actual OS will be smaller than Vista is).

Lumpy · 07-03-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Texas91Runner

Yeah, windows Pro really does have its significance over Home.

If you're willing to wait a while, I've heard some good things about Windows 7. It's much more reasonable, as far as resource usage and accessories, than Vista. I downloaded the beta a few months ago, and that OS is worth the space on your HDD (because the actual OS will be smaller than Vista is).

I have not messed with this at all yet. How is it? smoother than Vista, I also here it uses resources much better. Lately we have been getting our laptops with 4GB RAM and running Vista and that seems like a good combo. I'm running 3.5 at home and my laptop only had 2 so that is still on XP Pro.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-19-2009, 08:52 AM

a buddy of mine has a copy of windows 7 that hes installing on my machine today once i get my new hard drive (1TB for 65 bucks, smokin deal or what?!) and power supply... he says it runs fine on his old pentium4 h/t with 1.5GB of ram... might as well try it, huh?
...i downloaded the windows 7 upgrade advisor, and it says my system is ready, except for the sound card... the sb live isnt compatible with 7. (according to the advisor). should i upgrade card?

Lumpy · 08-19-2009, 08:59 AM

Sure why not...

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-19-2009, 09:53 AM

would the XP drivers work in 7? (nonwindows drivers)?
along with the geforce drivers? if not, does 7 have a compatibility mode for XP drivers?

Lumpy · 08-19-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

would the XP drivers work in 7? (nonwindows drivers)?
along with the geforce drivers? if not, does 7 have a compatibility mode for XP drivers?

Those are really good questions I do not have answers for.

I would assume that you would be good with the Geforce drivers. They are usually up to date.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-19-2009, 10:07 AM

okay. figure install it, if i cant figure it out, i can always go back to xp. on my way now, will update this once i get it goin

wish me luck.
....im gonna need it.

Lumpy · 08-19-2009, 10:10 AM

You should be alright...I would hope that 7 is less buggy than Vista. It should be more compatible with hardware than Vista is.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-19-2009, 02:27 PM

ok, got my power supply in and hard drive in, but the new one is unplugged for the minute. windows 7 will not install. keeps stopping at a certain point saying the file is either missing or corrupted. so im just gonna say to hell with it and put xp 64bit on here. ...unless anyone here reccomends vista, i can get that too.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-19-2009, 02:52 PM

another update: the power supply didnt fix my problem. though my computer is way quieter...

. im now thinking its the windows i have... maybe corrupted, i dunno. ill find out when i reload.

Lumpy · 08-19-2009, 04:35 PM

If you have at least 2GB RAM you'll be alright with Vista. I don't mind it so much now but next reload I think will be 7. I try and reload every 18 months or so.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-19-2009, 04:41 PM

vista ultimate?
and how would WoW run? i play that a lot, and thats the game im having problems with.

06-27-2009, 12:35 AM	#28 (permalink)
dark_fairytales Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sacramento, Crawlifonia Posts: 221	there is a label on the psu ( power supply ). this label looks like a table with voltage and amp specifications. the portion you would be interested in, has to do with how many 12volt rails the psu has and at what amps those 12volt rails are supplied with. also what comp ( computer ) accessories are powers off of those rails, such as a dvd rom. so the first step is to know how many amps the 7950gt uses at max 3d capacity. I looked up the info. on line for the 7950gt and it draws 85 watts at max. now to find out how many amps that is at 12volts you do the following equation. 85watts/ 12volts= 7.08 or 8amps. the 12volt rail that provides the power via. the six pin pci-e plug must be more than 8amps to power the 7950gt with no issue. remember though if you have other accessories powered off of that same rail you will need even more amps then 8 to still be able to power your 7950gt. So pull out your psu and check the label, if your psu meets the requirements you do not need a new psu. watts mean nothing on psu's its all about amps per rail and how many rails, more rails means better more stable delivery of power to comp hardware. I hope some of this help, and i hope it is not to nerdy for YT. I LOVE TEACHING PEOPLE HOW DO DEAL WITH COMPS SO THEY CAN GIVE GEEKSQUAD THE FINGER TOO. __________________ 86 longbed/ build date Sep. 85/ build # 1131 3" body lift 6.5" rear shackles 35" tires/ 15x10 beadlocks 5.29 gears/ ARB rear/ lockrite ront Custom 3 gal. onboard AIR Cobra LT 29 CB/ wilson 1000 ant. next mod 3" drive train lift dual t-case and bj spacers sitting on my carpet wait for install Last edited by dark_fairytales; 06-27-2009 at 12:38 AM.

06-27-2009, 05:57 AM	#29 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	actually, i was planning on leaving it alone for now (i turned the graphics WAY down and it plays well now) and just building a new computer. but seeing as how it wont be built for 3-4 months, i might as well upgrade the psu, and keep this one aside for when i give this comp to my mom (who doesnt play games). so the 7950gt is taking 85 watts at max 3d? thats almost a quarter of the power supply, then take into account the hard drive (an old inefficient IDE), the processor, the processor fan, the case fan (which has a blue LED built into it) the dvd burner, the other fan in there i added for extra cooling when i built it, and the mobo itself. prob way more than 450 watts running the geforce at max capacity. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

06-27-2009, 07:11 PM	#31 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	will do, thanks. im just gonna build one cuz i feel like getting another one.... i also like having the strongest computer in the house, and i did have the strongest one, until my sister got her dell intel quadcore computer... time to upgrade! __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

06-28-2009, 06:20 PM	#33 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	whats wrong with quadcore? and whats wrong with dell? my laptop was from dell, i had no problems. sold it to my friend, and it still works. its 8 years old. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

06-29-2009, 07:02 PM	#36 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	oh really? ....didnt know that.... will look into that. which OS does? __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

06-29-2009, 07:15 PM	#38 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	hmmm.... i always thought XP home and pro were one in the same, obviously with pro having more features. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

07-03-2009, 10:06 AM	#39 (permalink)
Texas91Runner Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 169	Yeah, windows Pro really does have its significance over Home. If you're willing to wait a while, I've heard some good things about Windows 7. It's much more reasonable, as far as resource usage and accessories, than Vista. I downloaded the beta a few months ago, and that OS is worth the space on your HDD (because the actual OS will be smaller than Vista is). __________________ '91 4Runner - My project '08 VW R32

08-19-2009, 08:52 AM	#41 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	a buddy of mine has a copy of windows 7 that hes installing on my machine today once i get my new hard drive (1TB for 65 bucks, smokin deal or what?!) and power supply... he says it runs fine on his old pentium4 h/t with 1.5GB of ram... might as well try it, huh? ...i downloaded the windows 7 upgrade advisor, and it says my system is ready, except for the sound card... the sb live isnt compatible with 7. (according to the advisor). should i upgrade card? __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-19-2009, 09:53 AM	#43 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	would the XP drivers work in 7? (nonwindows drivers)? along with the geforce drivers? if not, does 7 have a compatibility mode for XP drivers? __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-19-2009, 10:07 AM	#45 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	okay. figure install it, if i cant figure it out, i can always go back to xp. on my way now, will update this once i get it goin wish me luck. ....im gonna need it. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-19-2009, 02:27 PM	#47 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	ok, got my power supply in and hard drive in, but the new one is unplugged for the minute. windows 7 will not install. keeps stopping at a certain point saying the file is either missing or corrupted. so im just gonna say to hell with it and put xp 64bit on here. ...unless anyone here reccomends vista, i can get that too. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-19-2009, 02:52 PM	#48 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	another update: the power supply didnt fix my problem. though my computer is way quieter.... im now thinking its the windows i have... maybe corrupted, i dunno. ill find out when i reload. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-19-2009, 04:41 PM	#50 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,678	vista ultimate? and how would WoW run? i play that a lot, and thats the game im having problems with. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

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