Mac V. PC

CRafferty · 06-04-2009, 01:21 AM

Okay, so I'm going to ASU in the fall and my parents said they'd get me a laptop and I'm debating which one to pick up. My mom and I have been hooked on macs since she got her Pro, but my dad is a diehard HP fan. Anyone have any epic ideers?

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BAMF_CT2004 · 06-04-2009, 07:34 AM

I left school in 06 and from my perception, Universities are more PC friendly but that could have or could be changing. However, if you plan on going into anything with graphic design or anything along those lines, I would opt for a mac hands down. Anything else I would recomend PC. Basically its your own personal choice. Arguing PC Vs Mac is like arguing an Auto Vs Manual

Atomic · 06-04-2009, 09:00 AM

What's your major? This was the big deal breaker for me. I wanted to get a mac, since I am a diehard mac fan as well, but since I'm studying mechanical engineering I have to run some huge programs that I couldn't have done with a mac. I ended up with an hp but now I am really happy with it, even after 3 years of owning it.

Ardent · 06-04-2009, 09:06 AM

Well with the new Macs you can run windows as well. Then when you're out of school, just remove windows or keep it if you need it.

I love my Mac, and I'll never go back to a PC. I hate using them at work (it's the only place I do).

elblako91 · 06-04-2009, 09:10 AM

I just got a mac for college as well. In fact I'm using it right now. I too was skeptical about it but let me tell you its a dream. No pop ups no slow downs runs nice and smooth and it is VERY user friendly. I would never go back to a PC just to complicated. So I vote MACBOOK!

scuba · 06-04-2009, 09:39 AM

Leo Laport says : Mac for home and school; Windows for work and office.

Ide get a mac while you got the chance..

X-AWDriver · 06-04-2009, 05:27 PM

Apples are great but paying the Apple tax sucks and you get so much more for the money with a PC but if money really isn't an issue go Mac.

CRafferty · 06-04-2009, 05:39 PM

I got it today! A 13" MacBook with all the hardware and RAM from a pro. The thing is BEAUtiful. Got a TON of rebates and discounts because it was for college, plus a free iTouch and printer. well worth the little extra price.

nieuwendyk-25 · 06-04-2009, 06:34 PM

Good for you...you will really enjoy it!

Your original question is like comparing Toyota vs. Ford

You can run a PC on your mac! In my office we run iMacs and run Virtual Box for the one program we run in windows. It is seamless...and faster than any PC we have by 10X.

And for those who say Apples are too expensive...so are Toyotas and you bought one of those. I have never had to trash a mac, only retired them. I have trashed every PC I have ever owned. My desktop is a G4 dual processor that I bought in 2000, it can still hold its own! I will soon be retiring it for a new iMac, just because I want something new, it is still pretty fast. My daughter has my original iBook since I bought a Macbook for my work computer.

Also, go to the Apple store and look at their refurbished Macs. I bought all of my computers we use in my office from the refurbished part of the store and have had zero problems. You can't tell them from new.

X-AWDriver · 06-04-2009, 07:01 PM

I guess PCs are different for all people since for 10 years never had any problems with our home PC and 3 laptops we have but it is helpful I have a friend who maintains them but no real issues over this time.

To get what I got in my HP laptop would've cost me 3x more for an Apple. I have more money to put into my Toyota like new tires.

arjan · 06-04-2009, 08:18 PM

This has the makings of a

gary96360 · 06-04-2009, 08:45 PM

yeah the reason i bought a hp notebook because it was cheaper than a mac. but now i wish that i got one when i found out that you can run windows on it. ps the hp notebook is pretty strong (ran it over with the yoter dont ask lol) and it only has a crack in the corner and it didnt spread yay.

TC4RNR · 06-24-2009, 10:43 PM

one thing for PC is the free software, Mac software are big $$$, don't pay a dime on pc software.

CRafferty · 06-24-2009, 11:19 PM

You don't pay a dime and you pay for that

lol
It's a seamless and fluid machine. From task to task there is not computing involved. I do sort of wish I waited a few more weeks to get the new ones they released at their global conference.

nieuwendyk-25 · 06-25-2009, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC4RNR

one thing for PC is the free software, Mac software are big $$$, don't pay a dime on pc software.

Huh??

It comes with just about every program you need...you don't have to buy programs to do simple tasks like burn DVD/CD's, edit movies, etc...like you do on a PC.

If you need something else there is a lot of free stuff out there...

Most of the PC software is crap anyway!

It's funny you say that...I just had to spend a fortune for anti-virus stuff for the PC's at my office...not a problem with a Mac!

BTW if you have a problem understanding what I am saying just press CTRL/ALT/DEL and that will fix everything....

CRafferty · 06-25-2009, 12:09 AM

^

sorry lol.

X-AWDriver · 06-25-2009, 06:34 AM

Macs are for people who are really going to get use out of them and are a bit much for your average computer person and yes,Macs are overall more fluid and do incur some less bugs but you pay alot for it and that doesn't always gurantee a MAC is going to be perfect.

The cheapest Apple I saw was over $999 at Best Buy and you get 2gb RAM,160gb HD ,13" screen but it did have a good Nvidia graphics card.

With a PC if you even come close to the $900 you get 4gb memory,320-500gb and even a BLU-RAY player and longer bettery life standard with a few of the HP machines I looked at.

I personally only needed something not so ambitious and spent less than $600 on an HP and got 4gb memory(Core 2 Duo-same as the Apple),320gb HD,even has an HDMI hookup for a TV and came with more standard progams than the cheapest Apple.

I just don't see why Macs have to cost so much proportionatly more for less but maybe I see things different since I've never had any real headaches with any PC and it's help that I have a few family members that are ITs but with our home PC and the laptop I've only had my system get buggered up once in the last 10 years and that was back in '05 but we don't use Vista on the home machine and use XP which is fine.

I guess if you can afford to pay the Apple tax and get less machine for nearly considerably more money that's your prerogative.
Apples might have their edge but why so much more $$$$$$? I've played aroudn on a MAC and I don't see where the extra cash goes;it's not like Macs run flawlessly like some of you make it sound.

arjan · 06-25-2009, 06:53 AM

I need my laptop to make me a living and none of the software I use runs on a mac. They are just an overpriced paperweight to me.

It's allright if you just need something around the house to do emailing, web browsing etc., but then again so is a $300 netbook.

XP, Vista (after SP1), and now Windows 7, I have them all installed on my laptop (hobby of sorts) and they all perform flawlessly for me.
None of them has ever crashed, and I have had that laptop for a year now. Vista & XP where installed together since the first week I had it.

Windows is a very impressive operating system if you think about it. It runs on such a large variety of hardware from different companies, as opposed to apple who make their own os for their own hardware. That's relatively easy.

If you select good hardware for a PC you won't have any issues at all either, it's usually some cheap addon with bad drivers what causes all the grief.

I've noticed that mac owners often have the need to prove themselves and then seem to want everybody to use macs just because they feel it's best.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-25-2009, 07:50 AM

for hardcore video and audio editing: MAC, hands down. PCs just cant stand up to macs when it comes to editing. oh, and supposedly games are B.A. on macs, WAAAAY better than PCs. but i personally like PCs. i built this system im on, amd athlon x2 dual core, for 300 bucks, and it gives my dads dell a run for its money (he spent 2000+ on his). and compared to the mac G5s we ran in school, its way better at everything except video editing (i only have 2GB, it takes forever to process the video changes in premier). im getting ready to build myself a new computer from newegg... AMD phenom, 500GB hard drive, 16GB ram, 1000w power supply, etc, for under 600 bucks. lets see a MAC compete with that price for the power of the new system.

X-AWDriver · 06-25-2009, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

for hardcore video and audio editing: MAC, hands down.

I can see a Mac for that since I've played around with the editing software of several photo and video editing programs and they do rock but if I spend close to a $1000 on a PC it still gets the job done and offers still much more than a Mac.
The world still revolves around the PC when it comes to availability of programs and games tho'.

Macs are like a Prius since there seems to be a certain amount of smugness when it comes to Mac users.

nieuwendyk-25 · 06-25-2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjan

I need my laptop to make me a living and none of the software I use runs on a mac.

That statement is just not true! Anything that will run on windows will run on a Mac. I run all of my PC based Dental software on my iMacs at the office.... They will even run windows (in a window) if you like and the Mac system in the background. The best of both worlds.

My Macbook runs virtual box with windows 2000 (or whatever windows os you want) with my office software and we have no connection problems in or out of the office...the networking is actually easier. And it makes me a good living!

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjan

Windows is a very impressive operating system if you think about it.

You are kidding right! I still run 2000 on my PC's at work as it was the last adequate system they made. And it is very common knowledge that Vista is plagued with multiple problems. Impressive it is not...

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjan

it's usually some cheap addon with bad drivers what causes all the grief.

Whats a driver??

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjan

I've noticed that mac owners often have the need to prove themselves and then seem to want everybody to use macs just because they feel it's best.

Oh puleeeze!!!! I guess you could say the same for Toyota owners too, eh...

No need to slam mac users dude...just buy what you want...but don't state a bunch of made-up "facts" that you know nothing about.

nieuwendyk-25 · 06-25-2009, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

for hardcore video and audio editing: . im getting ready to build myself a new computer from newegg...

You edit hardcore video...

Cool!

Newegg ROCKS!!!

CRafferty · 06-25-2009, 09:08 AM

^ lol. He's the editor for Dragonforce!!! He also composes new age metal on Garage Band... WHICH WAS FREE!

Lumpy · 06-25-2009, 09:24 AM

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We can debate this all day. I prefer PC...some like Mac. O well.

CRafferty · 06-25-2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumpy

I prefer PC...some like Mac. O well.

Indeed.

But Macs are still better!

06-04-2009, 09:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Atomic Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crystal Lake IL (Home) or Oxford OH (MU Ohio) Posts: 317	What's your major? This was the big deal breaker for me. I wanted to get a mac, since I am a diehard mac fan as well, but since I'm studying mechanical engineering I have to run some huge programs that I couldn't have done with a mac. I ended up with an hp but now I am really happy with it, even after 3 years of owning it. __________________ Tess- 1998 4Runner 4WD SR5: 154k, Evergreen Pearl Metallic, ARB Tacoma Bull Bar, Hella 500's, Deckplate, ISR, WabFab discos, 5.25'' Infinity Reference rears, Baja amp powering a 10'' Infinity Reference sub, Sylvania Silverstars, JB L.E.D. Taillights 1996 4Runner 2WD SR5: stock, dented, almost dead, 207k- Brother's

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Ardent Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 390	Well with the new Macs you can run windows as well. Then when you're out of school, just remove windows or keep it if you need it. I love my Mac, and I'll never go back to a PC. I hate using them at work (it's the only place I do). __________________ Nate 1993 3.0 Pickup - 4" lift, 33x10.50s BFG KM1s. 1995 4.5L FZJ80 - OME springs, Locked. Nitto Terra Graplers. Sold: 1993 3.0 4Runner - Fj80 Coils, 1.5" BJ Spacers 1987 2.4 4Runner / SAS'd / Got it Running!/ Project truck... Just bought my FZJ80...

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elblako91 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 250	I just got a mac for college as well. In fact I'm using it right now. I too was skeptical about it but let me tell you its a dream. No pop ups no slow downs runs nice and smooth and it is VERY user friendly. I would never go back to a PC just to complicated. So I vote MACBOOK! __________________ '92 Yota 5 Speed V6 4X4 5,000 ORIGINAL MILES New 32X11.50 all terrains and some Bright ass lights. :)

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scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	Leo Laport says : Mac for home and school; Windows for work and office. Ide get a mac while you got the chance.. __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,146	Apples are great but paying the Apple tax sucks and you get so much more for the money with a PC but if money really isn't an issue go Mac. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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nieuwendyk-25 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Republic Texas Posts: 872	Good for you...you will really enjoy it! Your original question is like comparing Toyota vs. Ford You can run a PC on your mac! In my office we run iMacs and run Virtual Box for the one program we run in windows. It is seamless...and faster than any PC we have by 10X. And for those who say Apples are too expensive...so are Toyotas and you bought one of those. I have never had to trash a mac, only retired them. I have trashed every PC I have ever owned. My desktop is a G4 dual processor that I bought in 2000, it can still hold its own! I will soon be retiring it for a new iMac, just because I want something new, it is still pretty fast. My daughter has my original iBook since I bought a Macbook for my work computer. Also, go to the Apple store and look at their refurbished Macs. I bought all of my computers we use in my office from the refurbished part of the store and have had zero problems. You can't tell them from new. __________________ DMN, D.D.S. "DOC" 2000 4Runner SR5 4WD- RADIANT RED, Toyota E-Locker, BFG AT's, Yakima Rocket Box, Toyota Ski Rack, Alpine Amp, iPhone interface, Focal 6.5" Components Front & REAR!, Monster Wiring, Husky Liners, Magellan Color GPS, Bilstein Sucks...I mean Shocks 2005 Sequoia SR5 4WD- BRILLIANT WHITE, Yakima RB, Husky Liners, 10.4" LCD/DVD Player, iPod interface, BFG AT's 1986 Jeep CJ-7- Hard & Soft Tops, Alpine CD, iPod interface, Polk Speakers, 31" BFG AT's, Bosch Lights, Mopar MPI

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,146	I guess PCs are different for all people since for 10 years never had any problems with our home PC and 3 laptops we have but it is helpful I have a friend who maintains them but no real issues over this time. To get what I got in my HP laptop would've cost me 3x more for an Apple. I have more money to put into my Toyota like new tires. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,146	Macs are for people who are really going to get use out of them and are a bit much for your average computer person and yes,Macs are overall more fluid and do incur some less bugs but you pay alot for it and that doesn't always gurantee a MAC is going to be perfect. The cheapest Apple I saw was over $999 at Best Buy and you get 2gb RAM,160gb HD ,13" screen but it did have a good Nvidia graphics card. With a PC if you even come close to the $900 you get 4gb memory,320-500gb and even a BLU-RAY player and longer bettery life standard with a few of the HP machines I looked at. I personally only needed something not so ambitious and spent less than $600 on an HP and got 4gb memory(Core 2 Duo-same as the Apple),320gb HD,even has an HDMI hookup for a TV and came with more standard progams than the cheapest Apple. I just don't see why Macs have to cost so much proportionatly more for less but maybe I see things different since I've never had any real headaches with any PC and it's help that I have a few family members that are ITs but with our home PC and the laptop I've only had my system get buggered up once in the last 10 years and that was back in '05 but we don't use Vista on the home machine and use XP which is fine. I guess if you can afford to pay the Apple tax and get less machine for nearly considerably more money that's your prerogative. Apples might have their edge but why so much more $$$$$$? I've played aroudn on a MAC and I don't see where the extra cash goes;it's not like Macs run flawlessly like some of you make it sound. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub Last edited by X-AWDriver; 06-25-2009 at 06:36 AM.

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arjan Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mission, British Columbia Posts: 1,558	I need my laptop to make me a living and none of the software I use runs on a mac. They are just an overpriced paperweight to me. It's allright if you just need something around the house to do emailing, web browsing etc., but then again so is a $300 netbook. XP, Vista (after SP1), and now Windows 7, I have them all installed on my laptop (hobby of sorts) and they all perform flawlessly for me. None of them has ever crashed, and I have had that laptop for a year now. Vista & XP where installed together since the first week I had it. Windows is a very impressive operating system if you think about it. It runs on such a large variety of hardware from different companies, as opposed to apple who make their own os for their own hardware. That's relatively easy. If you select good hardware for a PC you won't have any issues at all either, it's usually some cheap addon with bad drivers what causes all the grief. I've noticed that mac owners often have the need to prove themselves and then seem to want everybody to use macs just because they feel it's best. __________________ 2006 4Runner V8 Sports Edition Red 1997 4Runner 3.4L Bushwacker Flares, 5spd, E locker

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ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,643	for hardcore video and audio editing: MAC, hands down. PCs just cant stand up to macs when it comes to editing. oh, and supposedly games are B.A. on macs, WAAAAY better than PCs. but i personally like PCs. i built this system im on, amd athlon x2 dual core, for 300 bucks, and it gives my dads dell a run for its money (he spent 2000+ on his). and compared to the mac G5s we ran in school, its way better at everything except video editing (i only have 2GB, it takes forever to process the video changes in premier). im getting ready to build myself a new computer from newegg... AMD phenom, 500GB hard drive, 16GB ram, 1000w power supply, etc, for under 600 bucks. lets see a MAC compete with that price for the power of the new system. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

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